Now it's transphobic to reject mtfs with neovaginas

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[–]blackrainbow[S] 46 insightful - 1 fun46 insightful - 0 fun47 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

These people are totally delusional (and homophobic), they think that neovags are the same as natural vaginas.

If you aren't into penis, and a girl has a penis, I can understand not being into that, thats aesthetics (though being open to it wouldn't hurt)

Imagine telling this to a gay man or a lesbian woman.

You’re literally saying you would sleep with a cis woman with a vagina, but a trans woman with a vagina and the exact same appearance would not work for you.

THEY ARE NOT THE SAME

Nobody here is going to force anyone to date a trans person. But if a trans person is fully transitioned, and you still reject them on the basis of being trans, then that is transphobic.

"Nobody is going to force anyone do date trans people... But if you do, you're a transphobic piece of shit who deserves to die"

[–]Poppy29252Natal Cat Woman 45 insightful - 3 fun45 insightful - 2 fun46 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Even if it was the same as a vagina, I wouldn't want to sleep with a man because he's still just a man. They can never grasp that point.

I don't care how well a man mimics the appearance of a woman or how genuinely he believes he's a woman. He is a man. I don't want him.

[–]distortedlindsLady Muse 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

exactly, they live in this la la fantasy land and sure whatever have at it...but when they call OTHERS that dont think like they names, are cruel, and mob up against anyone else who thinks unlike them? this is where it a MASSIVE issue. they also get to make up their own science, and deem whatever they want as 'hate speech'. its written in their "law" book. https://www.iglyo.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/IGLYO_v3-1.pdf

[–]Criticallacitirc 29 insightful - 11 fun29 insightful - 10 fun30 insightful - 11 fun -  (7 children)

The do say that to gay men, that a phalloplasty is indiscernible from a real penis. I just think it doesn't get much traction because anyone who has seen phalloplasty results know that the "penis" is an artistic representation made of flesh play-doh by someone who has never seen a penis in real life.

[–]hellonumpty 18 insightful - 9 fun18 insightful - 8 fun19 insightful - 9 fun -  (0 children)

anyone who has seen phalloplasty results know that the "penis" is an artistic representation made of flesh play-doh

Oh my god, it really does look like that!

[–]distortedlindsLady Muse 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (5 children)

not to mention studies have been done and uh, the results aint good. here's a study i found from the Urology Journal :

"A total of 32 patients were identified: 22 underwent free radial forearm flap, 5 anterolateral (AN-TERO-LATERAL: : situated or occurring in front and to the side) thigh, 4 anterolateral thigh/free radial forearm flap, and 1 fibular flap phalloplasty. The median age at prosthesis implantation was 36 (range 21-59) years. At first implantation, 16 inflatable and 16 malleable prosthesis were placed. Of these, 5 were removed/replaced because of infection, 2 because of leakage, 2 because of extrusion, 2 because of dislocation, 2 because of dysfunction, and 1 because of pain. The postoperative course was completely uneventful in 10 patients. Of all implanted prostheses, including revision procedures were surgically replaced or removed. Their conclusion: Prosthesis explanation, replacement, or revision surgery occurs frequently after penile prosthesis implantation. Patients need to be well-informed preoperatively on these complication rates."

[–]NeedMoreCoffee~=[,,_,,]=^_^= 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

I knew it was bad but not that bad jesus... Do you have a link to that study?

[–]distortedlindsLady Muse 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

yes: https://www.goldjournal.net/article/S0090-4295(19)30543-6/fulltext

its research i did for my podcast.

[–]NeedMoreCoffee~=[,,_,,]=^_^= 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thank you!

[–]distortedlindsLady Muse 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

my pleasure :)

[–]chupacabrawitchI'm super thanks for asking 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Ban the study then, it doesn't fit their narrative!!

[–]fuck_reddit 33 insightful - 1 fun33 insightful - 0 fun34 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

"(though being open to it wouldn't hurt)" As a gay man, yes, yes it would hurt. If you don't want it, that shit hurts.

[–]distortedlindsLady Muse 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

yeah, isn't that also called RAPE? jesus christ -- it sounds like the start of grooming, coercion "come on baby, you want it!" type shit

[–]fuck_reddit 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I meant "want" as in "really desire" compared to semi-desire. But yes, if someone doesn't want sex, it is rape.

[–]ChodeSandwichtender and moist 25 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 0 fun26 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

TBH I think that most of the people who repeat this shit are 100% aware that their chances of even meeting someone with surgical genitals is pretty low so they don't bother looking up what any of them actually look and feel like. It doesn't affect them.