Short Interview of Ellen (Now Elliot) Page in February 2019 - What’s going on here? Mental health breakdown as a result of misogyny and homophobia, grooming by the Human Rights Campaign, both, or something else?

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[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

There is a lot of "yikes" in those images. Emma looks imperious and smug most of the time. If someone presented just this one image to me as representative of the relationship I would tell Ellen/Elliott to get the hell out. This is actually creepy. Something is not right here, indeed.

https://images.app.goo.gl/gQ6YxaJ3MjBiMd2W9

The sad part is that Ellen didn't see it. People often don't. A predator will lock on to one's vulnerabilities and use them against you.

https://images.app.goo.gl/5DnwTFHnxLZCLZ1n7

Classic narcissistic smirk / sociopathic gaze; won't try to guess the degree of each, but boy howdy, no thank you:

https://images.app.goo.gl/CNcBWFkEN7MY7t7Y9

Source: Correctly predicting this type of abusive relationship every time I saw friends enter into one, and correctly (verification available) identifying the pathology of dozens of people with this type of presentation in photographs. So I'm comfortable with these statements.

I wouldn't be surprised if a few years from now there is another confession and it comes from Ellen again. I hope she is uncomfortable enough right now that she isn't taking any irreversible steps. She appears to have walked into a trap.

[–]throwawayanylogic 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Classic narcissistic smirk / sociopathic gaze

Nailed it. The exact energy I was getting from those pictures.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, watching this go down is reminding me of a number of things I've personally witnessed and experienced. Ellen doesn't need a sex swap, she needs an extraction. Even if she eventually re-decided to make this choice, she shouldn't be making it while in this kind of relationship. The likelihood of exploitation is too high. Right now, she is a trophy, not a human being.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

More photos—in which she doesn't look remotely approachable or warm or friendly, or even emotionally present. You might need a barf bag to read text, but in a way, it inadvertently describes some of the benefits to Portner of having Page in her life. Also, Portner is seven years younger. The young, powerful, charismatic narcissist is an intoxicating predator to encounter.

https://thenetline.com/the-untold-truth-ellen-page-wife/ https://archive.vn/bfM2K

[–]Femaleisnthateful 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

They married after six months together. Yowzers. You know, I'm realizing that there's a massive disconnect between the person (Ellen) I see in photos and in candid interviews, versus the one who retweets caustic Wokeism on Twitter and published that vitriolic 'I'm trans' PR bit that lashed out at unnamed enemies. I'm feeling more and more like she's a very vulnerable and insecure person (the coming out letter alluded heavily to that) who is being puppeted by entities trying to capitalize on her fame.

[–]SpatOuttheKoolaid 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

She often displays very vulnerable and insecure body language, like in this interview. She's talked about struggling with depression, sexual harassment during XMen, likely has trauma she's not sharing with the entire world. Every trans man/nb woman I've met in real life has had serious trauma history. Cults and narcissists alike both prey on insecure, traumatized people.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I dated someone like this once, who had a bad reputation in a shared social circle (and yet I did not know this at the time, because it's a large social group). She acquired me as a trophy (she didn't realize she confessed this to me at one point, but she very much did with some of the things she said and it matched her MO with other people) because my reputation was much, much better than hers and she was trying to shore hers up with that group of people. And one of her shticks was to focus on ways I must be vulnerable or needing help, because me feeling worse or needy helped her feel powerful. It felt invasive and weird and agenda-driven to me. And annoying. Like she was way overblowing anything I went through for her own reasons. There's a term for that but I won't go digging for it right now. It's one step away from Munchausen by proxy (known as "factitious disorder imposed on another (FDIA)" now), though. Fortunately, I am not the type to play up any obstacle in my life—I want to be rid of them all swiftly when they arise—so I wasn't going to lie down and agree I was weaker or more vulnerable than I was. I was not a good target or cooperative prey. So we didn't last long, because I started questioning her bullshit pretty quickly. So of course I got DARVO'ed. She could be Emma's sister.

[–]distortedlindsLady Muse 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

you're completely allowed to express your opinions about this! I LOVE your points you made and cannot agree more. I feel sad for Ellen, she's seemed lost for far too long.

[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries"[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Classic narcissistic smirk / sociopathic gaze

Who wore it better, Scott Peterson or Emma Portner? But yes this is how I felt too when I looked through photo after photo. Actual chills. I was trying to be diplomatic and focus on Ellen not Emma since I don’t otherwise know much about Emma. But I immediately noticed the cold intensity of her stare, her smirk, how Ellen comes across as her satellite in every photo and kind of shrinks around her. Their body language on the red carpet does not make them look like a couple. Compare photos with Ellen and anyone else, like Kate Mara. There’s so much warmth and closeness there. But with Emma, even when they kiss or embrace, Emma’s body is fully turned away from Ellen. It’s even worse than “not that into you.” That’s cold indifference.

[–]wafflegaffWoman. SuperBi. 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yep. It frankly makes me wish there was a way to intervene and get her out of there; to me these are photos of a predator and her prey. I know how horrible the abuse these people dish out can be and how ill it can make a person.