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[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 28 insightful - 5 fun28 insightful - 4 fun29 insightful - 5 fun -  (7 children)

The next step seems to be that you don't even need to identify as a woman to be a lesbian.

As long as you think it sounds cool, you can be a lesbian

[–]ExecuteHomophobes 18 insightful - 7 fun18 insightful - 6 fun19 insightful - 7 fun -  (6 children)

So what do you call two transbians having sex with each other? I call them gay men.

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 18 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 0 fun19 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

They're 100% highly delusional gay men.

[–][deleted] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

At least they're not harassing actual lesbians

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah. I'll admit that I don't care about what people do so long as they don't harm or harrass others

With that said, some people who don't directly harm or harrass others may be spreading misinformation that ultimately leads to harm or harrassment that would not have occured without their actions, and that spreading of misinformation should be seen as doing harm to others' knowledge and perception of reality.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Fair enough. It's sad that I at least view the gay ones better than the creepy fetishists...

[–]Three_oneFourWanted for thought crimes in countless ideologies 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well, I think they are better than the creepy ones. At the very least, they gave up on the idea that they have been traumatized by their male bodies and accepted that women don't want them, and so no longer go after lesbians if they ever did. The ones that whine about about how seeing another transwoman triggers them are worse because they are either even more delusional or manipulative.

While neither is great, there is a lesser of two evils as everything bad the gay couples do is also done within what the fetishists do regularly.

If we follow baby steps, it may be beneficial in the long run to first get transbians to date eachother and at least slow the rate of harrasment against lesbians until the rate of transitioning can be slowed and ultimately stopped. Gay men are sort of protected by straight men that come in to satisfy the 'gay' transmen out there, even if it is highly manipulative in and of itself.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Gay men have been increasingly targeted and harassed and I feel for them as well. I do agree, baby steps may be the only near term option.