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[–]yousaythosethingsFind and Replace "gatekeeping" with "having boundaries" 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Start out by getting a sense of where they are. Ask them what their understanding of what a trans person is. Let them know that you're not judging them for their beliefs but just trying to get a sense of what their understanding is because chances are they have come to believe it's something different than what it is. It tends to be pretty peaking for people to learn that the vast majority do not get or have any intention of having genital surgery. I generally start out by making a few points that set up that if we analyze "intersectionally," there are different groups of people going through very different experiences all being called transgender and that this is a misnomer that makes it hard to care for the needs of the people being labeled with that term. I say that you can generally (though not exclusively) divide them broadly into category based on their biological sex and the biological sex of those they are attracted to. I talk about how back in the day T got added to LGB because transsexuals (which I clarify is not a bad word) were generally homosexual and needed same sex rights but how now the majority of people claiming to be transgender are heterosexual. I talk about transbians and ROGD. I compare a lot the idea of transgender today vs transsexual previously. How now it's an ideology/belief system/religion not an action used to treat gender or sex dysphoria. I also explain how common it is for gay kids to have dysphoria and how for most it will clear up without medical intervention. Nice segue to how they're wiping out a generation of gay kids, the Tavistock whistleblowers, Jazz Jennings with his surgeries, the astroturfed aspect of this movement unlike gay rights, how big Pharma, the medical industry, and billionaires are the main support.

Also a good segue into the censorship and forced teaming aspect of this. How it was never about pronouns and erasure of biological sex before. And how now we are stuck debating the fact that women and children need safeguarding from men in the first place and whether men have physical advantages over men in sports. Most people don't realize this is seriously being argued. The sports issue is the most universally peaking topic, especially for men.

I also clarify that each of these topics is like their own whole thing that can be discussed at length so that I am trying to cover a lot of ground but can answer any questions in depth they want.

A lot of the conversation is about getting feedback from them. Lead them to realize a lot of the points themselves, and to ask the right questions of you.

[–]reluctant_commenter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

These are all great suggestions, I support this answer. :)

Like she said, this is pretty key:

Start out by getting a sense of where they are. Ask them what their understanding of what a trans person is. Let them know that you're not judging them for their beliefs but just trying to get a sense of what their understanding is because chances are they have come to believe it's something different than what it is.

The way we will be able to effectively spread awareness about the harms of gender ideology is by meeting people where they are at. If nothing else-- an outsider to the situation will look at us and then look at TRAs and say: "Well, this group wants to just cancel and yell at and refuse to listen to anyone who criticized them, and this other group just wants to have an honest conversation. Maybe there is something to this second group." That is the power of two-way dialogue. Gender ideology believers often take a dictatorial tone, and that alone puts people off.

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Perhaps start with the notion that sexual orientation (LGB) & gender identity (T) are two very different issues with different goals and needs. Not better, not worse, not more or less "oppressed" than the other, but different.

Because this is pretty much objectively true - the two are not intertwined. Most LGB people don't know what it's like to be transgender, and a large portion of transgender people are heterosexual.

You could even pitch it in a way that insists transgender people need their own specialized care, ie specialized gender therapists and transition plans, which is something very specific to them that LGB people cannot relate to nor help with, and thus it's better off the communities split for that reason alone.

[–]reluctant_commenter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Usually I don't want it to be a Big Damn Thing where we talk for hours; I don't intent to peak them in a single conversation.

Totally agree. I think short sound bites are the best. If they want to know more then there's lots more, but we don't want to overwhelm people.

Quick ones I've used:

The goal of the trans movement is to give drugs to children without their parents knowing. These drugs...

edit: adding links

Also, a lot of newspapers are totally on board with giving these drugs to literal children and not telling their parents, which is crazy... see first article from CNN as an example.

I can barely believe that first bolded sentence I wrote is reality... but it is, lol. And it's insanely messed up, and we've got to stop it.