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For most of my life, "gender" was simply the everyday synonym for "sex", for contexts where saying "sex" would feel inappropriate

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[–]8bitgay 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I think that an unfortunate fact is that they use arguments that are reasonable at first. I mean, sex shouldn't dictate how you live your life. Just because you're born male it doesn't mean you should marry a woman or have to follow your society's stereotypes of how men should be like.

This might seem obvious to us, but to a lot of conservative people it isn't. I bet many of us here have heard stuff like "you are a man, so you have to [stereotype]", "you are a man, so you can't [stereotype]".

What they do though is extrapolate this point. It starts from "your sex shouldn't dictate your entire life" and becomes "your sex is completely irrelevant in all situations". So it can be hard to disagree with their points without it seeming like you agree with the conservative people who follow arbitrary sex-related stereotypes.

[–]BiHorror 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

conservative people

At this point, with the amount of damage/bullshit both GC and TRA have done, I rather have conservatives telling me I need to be feminine.

[–]8bitgay 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I dunno, frankly I find both quite bad. The difference is that I can talk about conservative homophobes on most "LGBT spaces" while talking about homophobia from the other side is a taboo.

If anything, one of the TQ+ issues is that they "forget" how much LGB are targeted by conservative homophobes, so that they can claim TQ+ is more oppressed.

[–]les4leshomonormative 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah, getting nostalgic for "old school" homophobia isn't productive. They're just as bad, they're just less annoying because they aren't infiltrating us

[–]8bitgay 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

And because we're adults, I might add. It's easier to ignore conservative homophobia being an adult since I can often avoid being in conservative spaces or dealing with conservative people.

Still, I'm very much aware of this depending on which place of the city I'm walking. Some neighborhoods are far from gay friendly.

These two "sides" of homophobia help each other.

[–]les4leshomonormative 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

These two "sides" of homophobia help each other.

Exactly lol with all these freaks and narcissists being the face of the community now conservatives probably feel pretty vindicated in hating the rest of us