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[–]hyunnahh 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

simply thinking because it's a slur

"bislut" literally has "slut" in it. It IS a slur and it IS derogatory, as explained by myself and the few other people that has bothered to reply to your offensive comment

rapist because it's a derogatory slur

since when has rapist been derogatory? now you're just making things up.

You, you do realise that we can get a point across without using any demeaning or derogatory language right? Simply stating that this woman is doing a disservice to our community and explaining how it's harmful is enough, there's zero need to use such a derogatory term. Using a slur and insulting the other party is EXACTLY the sort of behaviour that TRAs emulate, and YOU'RE stooping down to their level. I'm not playing "nice". I recognise the harm people, like this woman in this post here, are doing to our community. I'm not blind to all this, which is why I'm here in this sub in the first place. However, there is, as has been stated many times before by me, zero need to resort to foul language that has historically been used to justify sexual assault and harassment.

The point here isn't about being nice or mean, it's about basic respect and courtesy.

[–]BigMommyMilkersYes, they're real 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

It IS a slur and it IS derogatory

I'm not sure if you've missed the statement of the intention that it's meant to be a slur, doesn't mean it's equivalent to the N slur

since when has rapist been derogatory?

The same way TERF is considered a slur, it's a description for a group of people that can be used in a derogatory way. Although I'll admit rapist perhaps wasn't the best example here, consider moron, junkie or idiot.

You, you do realise that we can get a point across without using any demeaning or derogatory language right?

And how has being nice, courteous, respectful of those who haven't shown a modicum of consideration for us worked out so far? Do you honestly believe the way forward is to be respectful and considerate of these people? lol, no wonder we're where we are at.

But hey, you can sit in the corner with your tissues, knowing that at least you showed them the respect they wouldn't dream of showing you.

[–]hyunnahh 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

intention that it's meant to be a slur

and WHY would you want that? WHY blatantly create another slur that is BASED on another slur? What does that accomplish? Nothing but spreading hate and adding more fuel to the fire. I also never said it was equivalent to the N slur, but the fact remains that they are BOTH slurs and should not be used in any context, each with a unique and horrible history tied to it, something that you've willingly ignored in your replies.

it's a description for a group of people that can be used in a derogatory way

and again, I ask, WHY? And WHAT is the purpose? This just seems so counter-productive and downright hateful.

Respectful =/= nice, there is a difference, they aren't even synonyms.. I can be harsh and assertive and get my points across while STILL being respectful. There is, for the last freaking time, zero need to resort to TRA behaviour in an attempt to drive them back. If anything, it'll make the TRAs even more aggressive in response and accuse us of transphobia and in your case using that term, biphobia. You seem to be mistaken, I don't care about their feelings at all because they've hurt far too many of LGB and especially children. But stooping down to their level and creating and using slurs left and right is just stupid and doesn't contribute to anything, and most certainly not to our fight against the TQ+. You seem to have this idea that the only way forward is to fight fire with more fire, but that's just not it.

Also, really?

sit in the corner with your tissues

Stop with the weak personal attacks and jabs, it doesn't reflect well on you.

[–]BigMommyMilkersYes, they're real 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You seem to have this idea that the only way forward is to fight fire with more fire, but that's just not it.

Because in the real world, respectful discussion from both parties on differing opinions simply doesn't resolve conflict, it's the dominant side that wins. You think it's mere coincidence that the aggressive tactics of the TRA are so successful? If being assertive but respectful was such a successful strategy, we wouldn't be in the situation we're in now, would we?

it doesn't reflect well on you.

How so? Why would your opinion of me matter in the slightest?

[–]hyunnahh 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And you have once again glossed over everything that i've said in response to you. A discussion won't work if you keep deflecting all my points.

respectful discussion from both parties on differing opinions simply doesn't resolve conflict, it's the dominant side that wins

No, it is the side that wins the audience that wins. In fact, being aggressive has only led to the TRAs' downfall, as evident by the number of people on the internet "peaking" and realising how much bullshit the whole gender ideology is. Back when they were only requesting so much, most of us didn't have a problem with them, namely the transsexuals. It is only because they started to get aggressive, labelling everything transphobic and yadah all that jazz that we are now starting to push back. The TRAs are a weak example.

assertive but respectful was such a successful strategy, we wouldn't be in the situation we're in now, would we?

The thing is, when the whole gender ideology started to spread, pretty sure no one was putting them down, and instead supporting their delusions. It was being completely silent and seemingly supportive that got us to this position in the first place, not "being assertive and respectful".