DiscussionHow do you feel about non-binary people being attached to the lgbt community?

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[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 45 insightful - 1 fun45 insightful - 0 fun46 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

There is no such thing as "non-binary." I do not believe in gendered souls or gendered brains or anything like that. We are all just humans living in bodies. Our personalities are influenced by hormones, how we are raised, the society around us, and some studies show that some personality traits might be hereditary. "Non-binary" is just confused people trying to make sense out of why they aren't "Girly-girls" or "Manly-men" and arriving at the completely stupidest conclusion.

This is exacerbated by Trans people INSISTING that there is a way to "feel" female or male. And these people FEEL female/male so badly that they need to chop their body parts off and destroy their own lives. So of course, this makes confused people feel like "Holy shit, if this person feels THAT seriously about being male/female and I don't, the problem must be with me."

But DYSPHORIA is the mental illness. Lack of dysphoria is just called being normal.

"I don't feel male or female, that means I'm special." Is an internet disease that did not exist even 10-15 years ago. November 2013. Not even 7 years.

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=nonbinary

[–]INeedSomeTimeAsexual Ally 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This is such an obvious term and it was unheard of even on the very early days of LGBT movement. Even asexuality was mentioned in the 70s already but non-binary popped out literally out of fucking nowhere.

I am curious who started this.

Also it's a very good argument against the disaster of neutering languages which has been developing for centuries on its own natural pace and then suddenly it needs drastic change after 2013? If non-binarism is such a natural phenomenon then why haven't we heard of such people before? Why weren't there neopronouns way before it? It's a trend. A very sick trend because these kids take hormones and transition into ??? I don't know even what.

[–]ThiccDropkickGay 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

But nOn BiNaRy PeOpLe HaVe AlWaYs ExIsTeD. They just went thousands of years never thinking to invent a word for it until 5 years ago..

[–]INeedSomeTimeAsexual Ally 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Certain cultures living far to the north managed to invent several words for different snow types they've observed.

A language is a collection of phenomenons people has observed in real life or experienced like emotions or states of mind.

Why no one was hurt by gendered language until now? If gendered language was so harmful it wouldn't be invented and it wasn't kept out of malice.

[–]BiHorror 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am curious who started this

Riki Anne Wilchins. The woman who just so happened to the the founder of the 1st national transgender advocacy group... Who also coined genderqueer and GNC. Like, if you Google it, it literally shows GNC and NB/genderqueer pop up in the same search results w/ her name.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I brought up dysphoria on reddit and some guy said non binary they were trans because they transition, I said medically? and he said yes he had friends who did. I guess they are getting extreme in trying to be androgynous.

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Let's do the math.

Non-binary ---> Transitions ---> Into what? ---> Cannot be non-binary anymore because it transitioned into something else.

Unless Transition doesn't mean "the act of transitioning" anymore?

Can non-binary transition into a different kind of non-binary?

Non-binary is their gender ----> they get something called "gender affirming surgery" ---> So... Surgery to make them look non-binary?

These people really do create their own problems, but fuck the doctors that go along with this insanity, really.

[–]TovasshiDefinitely a house plant 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Non-binary just means the fetishize intersex.

They want to transition into their romanticized idea of intersex.

[–]xanditAGAB (Assigned Gay at Birth) 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

well if you are female and you take hormones only, but keep your breasts and gens, I guess that is them transitioning to something not male but not female? Or get face surgery so you look androgynous? Like Pat from the snl sketches? I mean we know they are female but they want to pretend there is a halfway point and label it NB.

[–]Beth-BR 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've heard a 'non-binary' refer to their pronouce change as 'transitioning'.

[–]TovasshiDefinitely a house plant 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

There's a doctors that do non-binary bottom surgery.

https://www.mtfsurgery.net/non-binary-surgery.htm#:~:text=People%20who%20identify%20as%20non,Female%20or%20Female%20to%20Male.