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Removed for rule 2. This would be better for s/GenderCritical or s/ThereAreTwoGenders

[–]muhgurldick 10 insightful - 4 fun10 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

Anytime someone throws any of that shit at you for not dating a trans person, just come back with “suck the dick, bigot” “eat the pussy, bigot” “eat that neovagina, bigot” “suck that neodick, bigot”. No matter how much they sperg out, and they will, just keep repeating it over and over again. Short, sweet, and too the point. With the added bonus of it being true.

[–]artetolife 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Or just ask them why they don't just date another trans person. An innocent question that almost nobody can answer without sounding transphobic themselves.

[–]muhgurldick 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

But, sweaty, they’re trans. They’re lower on the oppression totem pole than us. Therefore, they get to choose who they can fuck, and we have to bow down and eat some transginatm , or be terfs and bigots. Don’t you understand?????????

[–]SnowAssMan 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Trouble is even when gay men are willing to date trans-women & lesbians are willing to date trans-men & female NB people (nearly 70% of lesbians willing to date trans people are only willing to date the females ones i.e. not trans-women), they're not satisfied with that outcome either. Validation is everything to them, they just disguise it as something more noble.

[–]8bitgay 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

As you said, there are subtler ways. And the more obvious ones will often be dismissed as being "isolated cases".

The thing though is that they aren't the only group that will harass/pressure others in subtle ways. Other groups, like incels, also do it. Yet people are much more likely to recognize the issue in incel narratives, even when they're subtle. IMO a good response is to remind people of how close the TRA narrative is to incel narrative.

And of course, there are the obvious cases of harassment, pressure, threatens, etc. These I'd recommend saving, but paying attention to numbers. If you see a tweet with 1 like or a Reddit comment with 2 upvotes, they will be dismissed as isolated cases. It's harder to dismiss when you see verified Twitter accounts saying these things, when you see Reddit threads with lots of upvotes saying these things, etc.