As a heterosexual GC/Radical Feminist, how can I support the LGB community?

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[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 11 insightful - 5 fun11 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 5 fun -  (6 children)

First decide if you actually want to support "LGB people" or just lesbians and bi women. Radical feminism isn't exactly friendly to males. It perpetuates this idea that anyone born with a penis is inherently "oppressive" aka evil, regardless of how shit their life is or what minority group they belong to.

I'm a gay, GNC, intersex male. I don't think radical feminism is supportive of any of those things. Well, maybe homosexuality because "at least gay men leave women alone!1" and/or some radfems do that thing leftists love to do which is to elevate gay men and insist they're perfect angels for some reason.

But since I'm a GNC male I'm like, "appropriating womanhood" and "basically just an AGP" according to radfems, and since I'm intersex that also apparently makes me "just like a trans identified male" to them too.

TL;DR All you literally need to do is not be a dick. That's it. You don't need to bend over backwards to "show support" because if you do that it'll just come off as really tryhard and dishonest seeming. But the "don't be a dick" part might conflict with the radical feminist part. Just saying.

[–]justasking918273Ally 25 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 0 fun26 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I never got the impression that being a GNC male is any way a problem. For example I've seen lots of support for letting boys be kids and not transing them when they show GNC preferences. "Appropriating womanhood" is about expecting to get sex-based protection (being let into women's spaces etc.) when you are a man, just on the basis of "identifying" as a woman. GNC males don't say they are women, so they are entirely different.

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Oh yeah and they worship "HSTS" (gay transgender instead of "lesbian trans women") sometimes too, but as an actual GNC male they've all treated me with disgust, like me being intersex and GNC is somehow equivalent to being a pervert crossdresser trying to harass women. I think they're okay with GNC males in theory but that certainly changes when they actually talk to one

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

GNC and bisexual men are not welcome anywhere from what I've noticed.

[–]_d33n3r_[S] 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Thanks for responding, I can see how you get that impression from the community, I would just like to clarify, I don’t believe that all male people are evil, just like how not all radfems hate males, or would hate you. Being a GNC male doesn’t mean you are appropriating womanhood, since outward gender expression does not equal womanhood.

[–]OPPRESSED_REPTILIANIntersex male | GNC | Don't call me "a gay", "twink" or "queen" 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah... and I know it's not all of them but I can't help but view GC as toxic as a whole.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

To make "GNC male is appropriating womanhood" work - the gender stereotype roles must be accepted as legit, and GC feminism is against gender stereotypes and gender roles. So theoretically no GC should be saying that, but on practice it is not always the case. I suppose it is the same as homophobic homosexuals.