DiscussionWhich sect of trans ideology do you think is more harmful to the LGB community: truscum or tucutes?

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[–]Maeven 21 insightful - 2 fun21 insightful - 1 fun22 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Different harms involved.

Tucute are the group pushing woke conversion therapy on LGBs. They are led by the incels who can't be bothered to improve their looks and bedside manner while remaining entitled pricks.

Truscum are the group pushing to make rape by deception acceptable. They believe they can pass well enough to get a partner and maybe even keep their partner in the dark. I don't know how that works and I don't want to, but apparently the number of LTR and married truscum whose SO still doesn't know is not zero. And that's horrible.

If both groups are advancing some flavor of rape culture then it's a close call. I think tucutes are possibly the worst if only because there are so many more of them and they're always proselytizing. Truscum don't proselytize to the broad public since according to their ethos, most of the public is not True Trans.

[–]indeepshadowsBi woman[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Truscum are the group pushing to make rape by deception acceptable.

I've not seen this for myself, but then again, I don't follow trans issues very closely. Deceiving other people into dating them and having sex with them without disclosing they're trans sounds absolutely deplorable, though.

Totally agree with you on tucutes; their brand of homophobia is what brought me to this sub. And yeah, both groups cause issues, but they're different issues.

[–]jiljol 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

While tucutes claim that people are attracted to identities and that "you need to look past genitals", the truscum brand of gay conversion is more subtle. They will often say things like "yes, we understand you are attracted to dick/pussy, but what if the person is fully 'transitioned'?" or "'fully-transitioned' people should only come out if they feel like it". It is true that truscum set the bar higher, so to speak, but their rhetoric is still fucked up when it comes to gay people and consent.

[–]indeepshadowsBi woman[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh shit, yes, when you put it like that, I do remember seeing sentiments like that. It makes me absolutely horrified to even think I'd find out far into the relationship that my partner has transitioned at some point in their life; it'd bbe gaslighting and deceit of a most fundamental kind.