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[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

Haha good thing no one can downvote me here, but I have to say I do like Contrapoints. His videos are loooooooooooooooooooooong but he feels the same way about transtrenders as a lot of us here do. (In the last video I watched he was a trans lady having an unrequited love for another trans lady... So... 'transbian' but IDK what he identifies as currently.)

[–]oofreesouloo⚡super lesbian⚡[S] 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

If Contrapoints is a "transbian", no thanks. I'm really repulsed by "transbians" right now. Only homosexual trans woman like Blair White do I tolerate. But thanks anyway.

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

(he's not transbian for women, he's transbian for other trans ladies.... So... gay, but with extra steps.)

Whoops! Nevermind. I'm watching his Autogynephilia video from 2 years ago now and he just called himself transsexual, but also says he is dating women, so I guess he is a 'transbian' after all. IDK what he's identifying as currently though. Interestingly enough he also doesn't believe in the 'female souls' theory. (That some people are the wrong gender born in the wrong body.)

I should also add that the video is not pro-autogynephilia, it's refuting that autogynephilia exists at all. (I don't agree, I believe it exists, but he has great points/info too.) I feel bad I did such a shit job of promoting this guy, LOL. His videos are actually so good and informative.

[–]jiljol 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Did he use Charles Moser's paper (where he supposedly "proves" that women experience autogynephilia too) to "debunk" it? Autogynephiles like Thomas/Julia Serano love to parrot that trash as gospel that autogynephiles don't exist.

Self-described autogynephile Anne E. Lawrence did a brilliant takedown of Moser's work in Something resembling autogynephilia in women: comment on Moser (2009). That work is paywalled, but here is a post by Miranda Yardley, another autogynephile, that mentions Lawrence's criticism:

https://medium.com/@mirandayardley/from-mosers-paper-which-shows-autogynephilia-in-93-of-women-9d9d16f147d2

[–]haveanicedaytoo💗💜💙 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I don't remember if Charles Moser was mentioned (I cannot sit through 40+ minutes again!) but there was a bit about how women experience autogynephilia too. (OT, I don't know what Charles Moser says, but the few times I've seen women mention feeling sexual arousal from looking at themselves in that way, they also mentioned having suffered child abuse/molestation. This is 4-5 anecdotes from internet randos who could quite possible be male pretending to be female or otherwise lying, but I was just wondering, if you've read Moser's paper, do you recall anything about that?)

He also has some really weird ideas about how women experience sexuality, he thinks we (the straight/bi ones) don't look at men like sexual pieces of meat we want to ravish, he thinks we just want to cuddle with them or something LOL. He doesn't understand that women's sexuality even now in 2020 is highly curated by men. Men will allow teenage/pre-teen girls to go ape-shit over cute boys like Justin Bieber or whoever is popular now, but once those teens/pre-teens become adult women, they are deeply shamed for their sexuality and their objectification of good looking/attractive men, so women outwardly express their attraction to men in different ways, by for example reading erotica or secretly watching gay porn. I'm not going to unload a whole essay on you about this but... Yeah, it's amazing how many things trans women get wrong about actual women. (Oh and this whole topic came up because Natalie (the contra points guy) used to be attracted 100% to women only, but once he got on the HRT, (as of that video from 2 years ago) says that he now feels 70%(women)-30%(men) bisexual attraction. But his idea of how women are attracted to men does not jibe with reality, he thinks how he's attracted to men is the same as how actual women are attracted.

ANyway thanks for the article, I'll go read it now!

[–]jiljol 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, lol, that's basically the gist of Moser's mediocre thesis. He took like, 20 women, asked them some weird decontextualized questions* that didn't even exist in Ray Blanchard's original questionnaire and then found that >90% of women experience autogynephilic tendencies (wh0a!). Autogynephiles creamed their oversized panties when that paper came out and they constantly refer to it when they try to deny their paraphilia.

*One of the questions he used was: "I have been erotically aroused by dressing in lingerie or sexy attire for a romantic evening or when hoping to meet a sex partner".

Like yeah dude, no shit somebody is gonna get turned on by the prospect of sex? Guess 99.9% of the fucking world is autogynephilic and autoandrophilic lmao.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Questions were not very specific too, especially something like "Are you getting aroused when imagioning yourself having sex?" insted of "Are you getting aroused from seeing yourself in mirror (because she is a woman) or imagioning yourself (as a woman) naked?".