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[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Originally T was added for transsexual homosexuals. And LGBT was still ONLY about sexuality. Now T was hijacked by "transgenders" who are not even transsexuals with "born in wrong body" but some people called "transgenders" (previously transgender and transsexual were synonims, as gender was equal to sex, but not anymore) with "I feel like other sex" or "being other sex is my kink", and QIAANB+ part added was not about sexuality either. Almost everything that is after LGB nowaydas is about either sexual kinks or "how you feel yourself" or "what stereotype you will like to follow", not about sexuality at all. Plus if LGB is mostly about acceptance and "we are normal, just like everyone else, let us live. Being homosexual is same as being with brown or white hair, nothing special", the TQ+ is about "we are different, we need more rights than other people, make sure to remember that we are different and use special pronounses, change the world". And in general TQ+ has a lot more in common with movements like Feminism or Men Rights Activism.

And this is main issue with TQ+ under umbrella term - they want absolutely different things than we (LGB) are, they have absolutely different problems than we have, and even whole core reason of those problems is different. If Lesbians, Gays and Bisexuals have something in common - romantic and/or sexual attraction to same sex people, if all LGB people have same reason for being oppressed and it is shown in same way to all of them, then TQ+ have nothing in common both with LGB part and even within themselves.

[–]INeedSomeTimeAsexual Ally 17 insightful - 2 fun17 insightful - 1 fun18 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I wanna add that seeing that TQ+ also includes asexuals but to me they aren't like the rest of TQ+. They just want acknowledgement and that's everything. Unlike these trans and non-binary kids demanding special behavior and rights around them.

[–]MezozoicGayoldschool gay 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Well, asexual is still related to sexual orientation and sexuality, so they may belong to LGB. However, they do not have oppression like LGB people, they are pressured for different reasons. In general, thought, they are much-much closer to LBG than the rest of TQ+. And I am actually not sure if Asexuals even want to be in LGBTQ+. I know only few, and they are not associating themselves with LGBTQ+ and they are not sure why they should be associated with it at all.

[–]KCStuffedAnimal[S] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Speaking for myself, I very much object to being grouped with asexual people! I question whether asexuality is a legitimate sexual orientation, but I don't even want to go there. To associate the Gay liberation movement, which was sex-affirming, with asexual activism is not only wrong, it's insulting; and the very concept of having a semantic miscellaneous bin for sexuality is offensive.