LifestyleHad a phone date with a new guy ruined over trans rights when neither of us are even trans

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[–]notdelusionalbased faggot 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Unfortunately a fair amount of homosexuals get stuck in a mode of self defeat. Probably has something to do with actual oppression and this can trap some people into not believing in their potential as an individual, which in turn makes them susceptible to taking on the problems of others.

I don't agree that the problem is only "the ones who are pushing for extreme changes" because that makes it seem like people are the danger, as opposed to the ideas they hold. The transgender concept is extreme. It is an implicit denial of objective observation--the fundamental method that we humans have to rely on for navigating our existence.

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Also: I love that you have “fggot” in your tag. Lol. A gay male friend and I called eachother dyk and fggot (I don’t know if this word will get censored here, so I spell it like that) and horrified the straight ppl. It was even funnier when it was lesbian, gay man, trans woman calling eachother “trnny,” “dyk,” and “fggot” back and forth. I remember when this was not a huge problem. There was a time before it all went nuts

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I re-approved your comment, since you're discussing usage of the terms - not using them as slurs towards others :)

[–]notdelusionalbased faggot 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Hey I remember that time, too! I was part of various LGB circles in multiple U.S. cities over the years, and it was a "tight" culture with a lot of consistency between locales. In every group we always used those terms in an endearing way. These days it's no longer fun.

About the f word thing. I actually take it very seriously and appreciate your response. I use and say it mostly as a hard edge with a purpose. The purpose is to signal to straights (and other homos) that I don't think there's anything wrong with homosexuality. It took me many years and some scars to realize that I don't have to be a victim and I want others to know they also have that choice.

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It is like a term of endearment to me now, within the community, all of those terms. Queer was for a bit too until non-gays started using it then it wasn’t ours anymore

When I watch something like “how to survive a plague” and see how strong all of the lesbians and gays were in act up, I remember we didn’t get our rights by being anyone’s dvkes and fxggots but our own, and if we didn’t let aids crush us, then this current bs is manageable

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I agree, I just don’t think transgenderism is going to stop because we think it’s harmful. It’s already been made to a diagnosis with a treatment, so the best we can do is find better treatments and try to find ways to really narrow down who is most likely to be okay as trans and who is going to be worse off after doing it.

Unfortunately we live in a society where it is acceptable, even encouraged, for people to cosmetically modify themselves in many ways, especially women. Fake breasts, fake asses, fake abs, fake lips, sex dolls, pantomimed pleasure for public enjoyment, buying bodies for sex, porn. Not living in a real body, with real feelings, in a real world, has been happening for a long time. All of this shit overlaps. Social media has made it much worse because lives are flattened and curated and ppl are living in their heads. That is extreme dissociation with reality. All of it.

All of this stuff is a natural extension of living increasingly unnatural lives. Harmful ideas are all around us. If we want to stop this we have to stop coveting fake bodies and fake roles and get out and take a walk outside.

[–]SanityIsGC 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Your comment is bang on. Absolutely knocks it out of the park. I would add no real thinking and no real dialogue to "not living in a real body with real feelings". What you write stands on its own but I do think the ability to think critically without ideological supports has gone by the wayside. Anyway I'm a straight lurker and am hoping you might make this an OP in Gender Critical as it introduces the idea that the trans phenom is a consequence of a widespread societal mindset that has embraced fakeness

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Thank you. We are all so removed from nature. Our feet don’t even touch the earth. What kind of animal is so removed from nature? Kids are growing up behind screens, floors and floors above the earth, in many cases. That’s captivity. It makes animals sick. We are the “sick animal.” Some philosopher said that and it’s been in my head for years. I think people are trying so hard to connect, trans people just happen to be using some of the most harmful methods. The further we get from our bodies the sicker we are going to become. a beautiful facade is still a facade.