Jews Do Not Rule America — They Are a Diversion From the True Leaders: The Jesuits — Alan Lamont (14:05)

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Hey where did that thread about the juice as demons go?

It was really interesting!

[–]hennaojisan[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Since I posted that, /u/jesus has convinced me that the Jesuits are just a diversion from the Zionists and so far I'm believing him. Yes, I think Jesuits are in on selling out Western Civilization to the thing they call Lucifer but the Zionists are the much bigger threat right now anyway, I think. I try to be openminded but sometimes my brains just fall out.

Alan Lamont appears to be a Jewish shill but I think there are shills on both sides—and now they're right here on Saidit.net . No, I'm not saying you are a shill but my BS detector, developed over years on reddit, is ringing loud for some of these saidit comments.

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Was that a reply to me or to the OP?

There was a post on here about some (((dude))) replying to a polish(?) dude with anti-(((them))) views that (((they))) would rather destroy the Earth than be forced to go back to living under the Earth or some crazy stuff like that. There were many comments, links and stuff... I miss it, I wasn't done reading everything... :-(

Most importantly, I wonder why it got deleted? And by whom?

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

He also pushed Flat Earth, just like Phelps does. YouTube, Jewish owned, also pushes flat earth to confuse gullible people with PSYOPS.

What they do is find anyone who is Jesuit trained, which means nothing, because a lot of the times they simply went to a Jesuit owned school. I could go to Holy Cross if I wanted to. And a lot of the times, these Jesuits are also Zionist Jews.

They then completely ignore the obvious infiltration of Zionism in media, the executive branch, the relationship between IRAQ, Iran and 9/11. It's teh Jesuits they say, all the time.

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Oh it wasn't here, but on Voat.

Here have a read, it's pretty out there but... Whatever:

https://voat.co/v/Conspiracy/3337001

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm still going to write a post soon and compile information concerning the jesuits and their relation and conflicts with Freemasonry and other secret societies. What is clear is that Zionists and Freemasons today, LIE about the old Jesuits. Edmond Paris, who wrote an expose concerning the Jesuits, well his foundation is located in the Grand Orient Freemason building in France, the revolutionary lodge. The ones who founded the Jacobites and were part of the most bloodiest revolution in history. Chick, Lamont, and Phelps all push Freemasonry (only when it is of the Zionist branch) and Zionism in general. Phelps, who says Jesuits control the world was an Israeli diamond dealer too.

I read Edmonds book, and he sources very. very little. For example, a story is goign aroudn how a Jesuit wrote menin Kampf for Hitler and Hitler had zero say in teh wroting of the book. WEll that is an absolute lie. On page 159, he sources everything on that page, except this. SO, I had to research this claim and found that the Jesuit was never really a true Jesuit and was not religious in the least bit, even helped edit Nazi propaganda depicting the Jesuits in a horrible light. Sayign that they work for the Jews. All the evidence point to this man, editing mein kampf, like he has done with other works. He didn't write the entire book, and no evidence exists for such a case.

Freemasons want you to think the Jesuits controlled the Nazis. Rather, it seemed to be the far-right traditionalist Catholics, not all, but many who supported the Nazis. Though, many Catholics were persecuted, as were Jesuits and Freemasons.

The modern, 21st jesuits support LGBTQ+ issues, and are the exact opposite of traditionalists. I found one Jesuit pushing gay pride on children via his Instagram. No traditionalist Catholic and espeically no real christian would do such a thing. And the Anti-semitic Jesuits that upheld a blood law in the 17th century would not have done this either. So, who are the Jesuits of the 21st century? What are they all about? Obviously, we can not lump all Jesuits in with the ulterior motives of the elite infiltrated Jesuits, because even I could become a Jesuit if I so chose to.

The Jesuits disbanded the blood rule laws after WW2, when Nazi Germany fell, allowing Jews to become Jesuits.

Yes, Zionists want you to think it is the Jesuits who control everything, just like they want you to think it is the frankists. They all have a history, of course, but the number one problem today is Zionism, National Bolshevism, (chaos Magic, demoralization, Ideological subversion), neoconservatism, neoliberalism, globalism, faux-nationalism/populism, and multilateralism, which is the neomarxist agenda.

[–]hennaojisan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Here's a recent article from The Atlantic:

“The clock is ticking down on one of the world’s most unusual immigration proposals—Spain’s offer of citizenship to Jews whose families it expelled more than 500 years ago.

In 1492, the year Christopher Columbus set sail, Spain’s Edict of Expulsion gave Jews a stark choice: Convert, depart, or die. At the time, Spain’s Jewish community was one of the largest in the world, though their numbers had diminished due to a series of massacres and mass conversions 100 years earlier. Jews had lived on the Iberian Peninsula for more than 1,700 years, producing philosophers, poets, diplomats, physicians, scholars, translators, and merchants.”

Historians still debate the number of Jews expelled; some estimate 40,000, others 100,000 or more. Those who fled sought exile in places that would have them—Italy, North Africa, the Netherlands, and eventually the Ottoman empire. Many continued to speak Ladino, a variant of 15th-century Spanish, and treasure elements of Spanish culture. Tens of thousands stayed, but converted, and remained vulnerable to the perils of the Inquisition. How many Jews were killed remains unclear, but a widely accepted estimate is 2,000 people during the first two decades of the Inquisition, with thousands more tortured and killed throughout its full course. In 2015, the Spanish Parliament sought to make amends. Without a dissenting vote, it enacted a law inviting the Sephardim—Jews who trace their roots to Spain—to return. (Sepharad is the Hebrew word for the Iberian Peninsula) The law declared that after “centuries of estrangement,” Spain now welcomed “Sephardic communities to reencounter their origins, opening forever the doors of their homeland of old.”

Spain’s offer of citizenship to Sephardic Jews is a powerful gesture of atonement. The country today has one of the smallest Jewish populations in Europe: about 15,000 to 45,000 in a country of more than 46 million people. Yet, like so much of Spain’s complicated history with the Sephardim, the citizenship offer raises a host of questions. How many Sephardim would apply? What would be their reasons? And, if the law’s intent is to open “forever the doors of their homeland,” why does it have an expiration date? The offer ends this October.

When the Second World War broke out, Spain declared neutrality, but supported the Nazis in the early stages. In his Christmas message of 1939, Franco made a thinly veiled reference to the Jews as a “race” that was a “disturbance” and a “danger,” noting that “we, by the grace of God and clear vision of the Catholic Kings, have for centuries been free of this heavy burden.” Spain, however, did not deport Jews—indeed, thousands of Jews fleeing the Nazis crossed safely through Spain en route to other countries. In the post-War period, Franco attempted to rehabilitate his reputation and whitewash the anti-Semitism that was rife among his party and supporters.

Anti-Semitic beliefs in Spain have been especially widespread among the educated. A reportproduced by Spain’s Observatory of Anti-Semitism found that 58 percent of the Spanish public believes that “the Jewish people are powerful because they control the economy and the mass media.” Among university students, this number reaches 62 percent, and among respondents who are “interested in politics,” 70 percent hold this view. Some Spanish anti-Semitism reflects a tendency to conflate Jews with Israelis and to view both through the lens of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Spain did not recognize the state of Israel until 1986, when it did so as a condition of entering the European Union.

[...]

He added in an email, “There are still anti-Semitic expressions in the Spanish language which, unfortunately, are used quite frequently in the media, among the political classes, and of course, in the street—perro judío[Jewish dog], judiada [a dirty trick, cruel act, or extortion], and judío [associated with usurers].”

In the city of León, they drink a lemonade mixed with red wine called matar judíos (“kill Jews”) during Holy Week. Instead of “cheers” or “bottoms up,” the local drinking cheer is “We are going to kill the Jews.” For hundreds of years, a village in northern Spain was named Castrillo Matajudios (“Castrillo Kill the Jews”). The residents finally voted to change the name—in 2014.

By:

KIKU ADATTO teaches at Harvard University and writes about art, popular culture, and civic life. Her work has appeared in The New York Times, The New Republic, Time magazine and other national publications.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I found this interesting: also, never believe flatearthers, they are usually agents.

There is a personal and ideological continuum from the Bavarian Illuminati, through Jacobins and Carbonari to Communists. The Egyptian Freemasonry, founded by Cagliostro, and its later developments: the Rite of the Philadelphes, the Rite of Mizraim, the Rite of Memphis, and the merged form the Rite of Memphis-Mizraim under the irregular Grand Orient of France, have been closely associated with all of the revolutionary movements between 1770 and 1870. Zionism originates from the Grand Orient of France and there are personal connections tying both Zionism and communism to B’nai B’rith and Anti-Defemation League (ADL). The support of international bankers to communism, and also to Nazism, has been shown by several historians. This support has mainly come from Anglo-American and Jewish sources. As the Grand Orient of France was not active in these countries and Freemasonry is implied in this support, the lodges behind these subversive movements must have been some secret group inside regular Freemasonry.

Inner circles of Zionism with the support of international bankers seems to be the only surviving secret society that may have the role today. There is B’nai B’rith and Anti-Defamation League. We must look at who promotes the Jesuit theory, what their sources are, usually, flat eather Phelps or the man you quote in this post, usually Zionists and/or Judea-masonic connections.

Keep in mind I'm discovering that many of the Jesuit quotes are either fake, do not have known origins or are said by Freemasons.

[–]hennaojisan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yes, you've outed Alan Lamont and his agenda. And when I tried to run some of the quotes to ground, they turned out to be based on nothing. It was a real eye-opener for me. I learned to question and look for agendas long ago but now I know to question everything even harder. It seems that all roads are leading back to Jerusalem or maybe Heliopolis as you suggested.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Also, if you look into Heliopolis you'll notice the obelisk that matches the one in Dupont circle. And why do we have Egyptian symbols and a pyramid on our money? Well look into Heliopolis mystery teaching and worship and the creditor class that rose during that time. You can follow them from there to Babylon to Rome.

[–]hennaojisan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Finished reading it and thanks for the tip. Muy interasante. How did you know I would know about Dupont Circle? I just posted one that is right along the same lines as your link.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Hey, you should definitely read some of these articles and his sources. All roads do lead back to Jerusalem. That's one aspect of the NWO dialectic ; now what they have in store, we don't really know. But based on Judeo-masonic subversion and their role in current Zionist organizations, it seems the true NWO has always been seated somewhere in Israel, probably from a multilateral front.

Wikipedia will tell you it is an antisemitic, antimasonic conspiracy theory involving an alleged secret coalition of Jews and Freemasons. It existed well before 1930's Germany. It was a known conspiracy all around the world but after WW2 it became hush, hush and many people in power passed it off as nothing more than lies.

Before you scoff this off, please read these articles and his sources below. Quite intriguing.

http://www.pienisalaliittotutkimus.com/2017/12/20/the-old-freemason-conspiracy/

He specifically wrote this about the Jesuits:

Adam Weishaupt explicitly wrote to the Bavarian Illuminati program the infamous motto that anti-Jesuits claimed that the Society of Jesus followed: The end sanctifies the means.

Weishaupt was Jesuit trained of Jewish origins and got his methods from Jesuits. The Society of Jesus was started by Ignatius de Loyola in 1534 as a tool for counter reform. Jesuits invented methods that have been used by later secret societies with political goals. These methods include creation of special schools for educating adherents, infiltration of governments, clergy and other important organizations, and structuring the society in a way that a member knows his immediate superior only.  The Jesuit organization was the model to the Bavarian Illuminati, and to the secret society (presumably) founded by Cecil Rhodes.

Jesuits were expelled from 70 [I counted 89] countries because of their involvement in political intrigues and the whole organization was dissolved by the Pope around 1760.

Jesuits, and the Pope as their leader, feature often in NWO theories but there is little evidence of activity in modern times. The new Society of Jesus, founded in the 19th century, has not been connected with political activities on a broad scale but old charges towards Jesuits are still well remembered. Considering the decreasing influence of Christianity in a modern society, it is hardly a convincing argument that the Pope secretly rules the world through the Jesuits. However, the methods of Jesuits have been taken by other organizations.

Which, is why it seems VERY LIKELY, that the traditional Jesuit counter attack has been re-countered by the memorialitas, or the conversos /crypto-Jews. Why else would the pope suck up to Netanyahu, Zionists connected with terrorist organizations, whilst condemning RCC traditionalists, and liberalizing the Church. Preaching futurism, like many of the Judeo-masonic clubs do, the Pope is simply showing his true colors. Why have there been dozens of articles by well known new agencies stating that Freemasons are obsessed with the new pope?

[–]hennaojisan[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm reading and not scoffing but it's taking a while to digest all of it. So all those groups are interwoven, with each group bringing something to the party. I like it and it makes sense.

Spinoza's work lead to the Existentialists like Satre and Camus who were leftists or outright communists. (My addition) Pol Pot studied these philosophies in France before going back to Cambodia and trying to implement them, getting over a million people killed.

Still reading...

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There is much infighting between these societies, presently, historically and many of them are defunct. There's also the benign freemason societies and the subversive ones, Judeo linked ones.

There's a lot more to these secret societies than just, "they're all bad", or "they're all benign." They all have hidden histories, secrets, rituals and traditions.

It's just a matter of reading their histories and actual ritual books to get an idea of what was going on then and now. The Kabbalah is also interwoven in many of the Freemason rituals.

(A GREAT SOURCE: GlobalGreyBooks.com)

Just search the terms Freemason, Jesuit, Jacobins or anything else you're interested at that website and research their books, histories and rituals.

What was common knowledge hundreds of years ago by all people was a Freemasonic conspiracy. Does it still exist today or has it transformed into another entity or society?

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Zionists do happen to have an immense amount of influence in politics, in government, in military planning and they happen to be mostly Jews. Jesuits came from merchants who happened to be Jewish conversos, the Jesuits of today are mostly crypto-Jews promoting futurism. I'm almost ready to post something regarding this. Read the Jesuits as the synagogue of satan. It's on jstor and an acedemic book.

Did the Jesuits conduct a policy coup in the US, hijacking the executive branch, do the Jesuits censor anything about others exposing them? Did the Jesuits plan amd orchestrate 9/11? Did the Jesuits hijack the CIA in the 90's through the Bush admin?

There are Jesuit trained Catholics, who control many aspects of our government but so don't the Zionists.

To say Jews do not rule America is a red herring. Certainly, Jesuits don't either.

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Surely both can be true? This either or thing seems like a false dilemma.

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I don't see many Jesuits in Congress pushing for pro-Israeli bills.

[–]hennaojisan[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (25 children)

I think it will come as no surprise for most readers that Trump attended Fordham University, a Jesuit school. Clinton graduated from Georgetown U, another Jesuit school. In fact, you don't see too many Jesuits at all since they get others to do the work and take the blame for them. If you prefer to blame the Jews, that is exactly what the Jesuits want you to do. Jesuits "put" Jews in important positions so the Jews get the blame and divert attention away from the Jesuits' power.

As I said in the comments, this is an alternative view, so if you don't buy it, fine but everything is not always as it seems, especially when Jesuits or those who work for them are involved.

Here are some other graduates of Georgetown University: President Lyndon Baines Johnson, U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia. Three current elected heads of state are alumni: Iván Duque Márquez, President of Colombia, Saad Hariri, Prime Minister of Lebanon and Željko Komšić of Bosnia and Herzegovina. Other world leaders include Laura Chinchilla of Costa Rica, Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo of the Philippines, Alfredo Cristiani of El Salvador, and Dalia Grybauskaitė of Lithuania, who completed a six-month program in 1992. King Felipe VI of Spain, King Abdullah II of Jordan and his son Hussein, Crown Prince of Jordan, Prince Guillaume of Luxembourg, Prince Turki bin Faisal Al Saud of the Saudi Arabia royal family, Princess Noor Pahlavi of Iran, and Pavlos, Crown Prince of Greece are among the royals who attended Georgetown.

Seven alumni serve in the United States Senate, and twenty-one in the House of Representatives. Current congressional alumni include Dick Durbin, Senate minority whip, and Steny Hoyer, House majority leader. On the U.S. Supreme Court, alumni include former Associate Justice Antonin Scalia and former Chief Justice Edward Douglass White. Members of the current Trump Administration include U.S. Trade Representative Robert Lighthizer, Federal Reserve Chairman Jerome Powell, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Joseph Dunford, and Budget Director Mick Mulvaney. Members of the former Obama Administration cabinet include Treasury Secretary Jack Lew who graduated from the law school in 1983 and White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough who received his master's degree in 1996. Besides numerous members of the senior diplomatic corps, graduates have also headed military organizations on both the domestic and international level, such as former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and former National Security Advisor General James L. Jones.

Notable alumni in business include Mary Callahan Erdoes, CEO of J.P. Morgan Asset Management, Patricia Russo, former Alcatel-Lucent CEO, Jennifer Fonstad, founding partner of Aspect Ventures, William J. Doyle of the Potash Corporation of Saskatchewan, Ted Leonsis, former America Online executive, and Ann Sarnoff, CEO of Warner Bros. Savannah Guthrie, current co-anchor of the Today Show is a graduate of the Law School. And Bradley Cooper.

Damn, even I'm impressed by that wiki copy-pasta. Not many schools, or possibly none, can boast that many alumni of influence or in government. I am not saying that all these people are Jesuits but by attending Georgetown they were influenced by Jesuits and those that showed promise might have been recruited to cooperate with Jesuits in their later lives.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

The "secret oath" isn't secret. It also isn't used, since 1974. The oath you linked is a hoax. Why should I trust a no named website with zero sources. We do know the Jesuits is a small organization. We also know that the Catholic Church was at odds with the Jesuits for hundreds of years. We also know the Jesuits were Jewish conversos. Many converted to hide their Jewish faith. We now know the Jesuits have hijacked the Catholic church. Pope Francis, a Jesuit has reformed traditional scripture substituting it with a humanist, futurist approach. This was after Vatican 2 when Jews and communists infiltrated the Church. Just like they've done with the evangelical denominations.

If you want to know the truth: Go to the Library of Congress Catalog Record, do a basic search. I would direct link you, but it would just show up session timed out. So at the basic search type in Knights of Columbus vs. criminal libel and malicious bigotry.

This permalink might work: http://lccn.loc.gov/17022557 Call number: HS1538.C74 A4

Or here:

https://catalog.loc.gov/vwebv/search?searchCode=LCCN&searchArg=17022557&searchType=1&permalink=y

Time Magazine

Great & Fake Oath (Note: 2 pages hit the next button to see the real oath.)

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,928041,00.html

The Jesuit Oath Debunked

http://www.geocities.com/okc_catholic/articles/jesuit_oath.html

Also take note there are several versions circulating the net.

People really believe this Jesuit Oath as gospel truth.

“Blunders and Forgeries: Historical Essays” available to read online at the link above. Robert Ware

https://archive.org/stream/blundersforgerie00brid#page/208/mode/2up

The following sums it up in our opinion:

Ware’s most notable forgeries were “The Jesuit Oath” and “Foxes and Firebrands.” The former is sort of like “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion,” in that it falsely constructs a sort of manifesto of the Jesuits, describing their intention to “wage relentless war, secretly or openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Liberals…to extirpate and exterminate them from the face of the whole earth” and that it is still used to condemn Catholics today.

we must understand that even if these oaths and protocols are forgeries we can judge these societies and the people within them by the fruit they produce.

The Jesuits' relationship to the Vatican has been completely reversed since 1967. The relationship between the Papacy and the Jesuits has been checkered throughout the last 350 years, but since Vatican II the Jesuits have become a force in opposition to the so-called "traditionalists" position in the RCC. When founded by Ignatius of Loyala, it was the driving force behind the RCC "Counter-Reformation," and the oath like the one you cite, we can only imagine was operational and enforced. Now, the Jesuits constitute the most powerful force for liberalism in the RCC.

Two books are helpful in understanding this transformation over the centuries. The first is written by a French historian, with no particular ax to grind: Jean Lacounture, Jesuits: A Multibiography (Washington: Counterpoint, 1995). The second is written by an ex-Jesuit and vocal defender of RC traditionalism, Malachi Martin, The Jesuits: The Society of Jesus and the Betrayl of the Roman Catholic Church (NY: Touchstone Books, 1987). Bob. [Schaibley]

P.S. If you're looking for a source of pro-papal subversiveness inside (and perhaps also outside) the RCC, look to the organization called "Opus Dei." They comprise, today, what the Jesuits were about in the Counter-Reformation.

[–]hennaojisan[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

That oath, as linked, was read into the US Congressional Record as an attempt to stop the Federal Reserve, which was later controlled by Jesuits, from getting started. Indeed the core of the Jesuits is fairly small but they wield a lot of power. They are part of the Deep State. I appreciate your links but that info can also be falsified

The Deep State is, at least in part, made up of Jesuits, the CIA and FBI (both started by Knights of Malta people: Bill Donovan and J. Edna Hoover), the Black Nobility (old Italian monied families, now called the Mob), the Committee of 300 (who ran the East India Company and addicted millions of Chinese to opium), and more recently the US Military-Industrial Complex and the Bilderbergs, all using Rothschild banking. I left out mercenary groups who are the usual suspects.

To put it simply: Jesuits control the Vatican and that alone is a huge business. There are 1.3 billion Catholics.

The Vatican cut off the Jesuits for 41 years. Three years after being cut off, the Jesuits started the Illuminati in 1776 to continue their work under a different name. Adam Weishaupt was a Jesuit. The Jesuits imprisoned the pope and after five years the pope reinstated the Jesuits in 1814. They started the American Revolution and the French Revolution, then backed Napoleon who openly warned against the Jesuits, saying they were power-mad. The Jesuits are a small, vengeful group that infiltrates other organizations.

What is your agenda? Do you want to say that Jews are responsible for all these wars that go back well before Zionism was conceived?

You are using Time Magazine as a source?! If you are the Deep State you can create and edit sources as you wish.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So, I looked into this Alan Lamont, that is in the title of your post. He seems like a shill. He claims the Jesuits control everything but provides zero sources. He basis his argument on the Jesuit oath forgery, and he claims Jews are not the problem. Could it be certain subjects who identify as Jews? No, he says. He's also a flat earther and supports the disinfoist Ratzinger, a Jew. Being a flat earther proves your a shill. He also claims Bush had nothing to do with 9/11 and skull and bones is nothing. Yeah, you know PNAC and the various think tank documents calling for a new pearl harbor, Jeb Bush being a signee. But no, it's the Jesuits, not anybody Jewish, not the Bush's and also flat earth is real, hmmmmmm.

[–]hennaojisan[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Backpedalling, if you want to call it that: I agree that flat-earth is total nonsense. I also think that one source of our disagreement is the fact that all sorts of shills exist in perhaps all the groups we are talking about so there will be conflicting sources wherever we look.

I had considered that Lamont might be a shill and I think in the comments under his Jews Do Not Run America, I said that this was an alternative theory and I could not attest to its truthfulness. Hedge.

You are surely good at research.

Do you have a copy of the Oath in e-form? Or if you have a link to the oath you think is the correct one, that would be fine. I'd like to compare it to other forms of the Oath that are on the Internet.

The following is from this link: https://govbanknotes.wordpress.com/2017/05/31/pope-francis-first-jesuit-pope-jesuit-extreme-oath-of-induction/

This oath is taken from the book Subterranean Rome by Carlos Didier, translated from the French and published in New York in 1843. Dr. Alberto Rivera escaped from the Jesuit Order in 1967, and he describes his Jesuit oath in exactly the same way as it appears in this book. Semper idem: always the same.

The Jesuit Oath of Induction is also recorded in the Congressional Record of the U.S. (House Bill 1523, Contested election case of Eugene C. Bonniwell, against Thos. S. Butler, Feb. 15, 1913, pp. 3215-3216).

Another source, I will try to find, says that the Oath was stricken from the Congressional Record.

You have probably run across the name Alberto Ribera who supposedly fled from the Jesuit Order. I believe he is/was Cuban, or at least has what to me sounds like a Cuban accent.

Peace. And good work.

There is a drawing of Ribera on the link above and strangely he looks a bit like Jeffry Epstein. :)

Whether he is a shill as well, I am not sure.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I found the origins of the oath in a book. I'll post tomorrow. It is quite interesting.

[–]hennaojisan[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good. I am done for today. Very educational talking to you.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I used the US congress report as a source, which shows that it isn't the oath that that website you sourced writes.

You're making a lot of assumptions without sources. And then you attack one of my sources, and disregard everything else I wrote. Obviously, TIME mag. is corrupt that's why I linked other sources debunking this oath.

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I didn't falsify anything. The oath you linked is not what is in the US congress record that I linked. Stop with the Trump, Alex Jones, Pienznik, Robert Steel, Qanon deep staye psyop. It doesn't exist. The entire state is in on it.

The Jesuits are mostly futurists and crypto-Jews, that's a fact, them wanting to hijack catholicism makes perfect sense to me considering Judaism and Christianity have been at odds with each other for a thousand years. Though, I wouldn't call Catholicism and the crusades christian like.

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The deep state doesn't exist. The deep state was created so that people would think the system as a whole, the state, is still in their beat interests.

They are all in it together, media and all. The deep state retoric is just another psyop. My belief of course.

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The oath, is a hoax. It doesn't exist in US congressional record as the oath you posted. That's what I'm trying to get at. I linked the source in one of my posts. Stop attacking the messenger.

Did thrr Jesuits start the illuminati? Zionism origins started in the 19th centory and Talmudism has existed before Christ.

I think it isn't Jews per day, such as Orthodox rabbis but we cannot deny thr many Jews who front these secret societies and societal transformations. Jesus says they disguise themselves as Jews but they are not. Indicating they pretend to be Jews.

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It seems that Jesuits and Catholics are not true Christians. Also, Jesuits were merchants who were Jewish conversos. When we read old books on Freemasons and the Jesuits (search on globalgreybooks) we see that their end goal is not much different. Jut in thr way they go about it. They want to rebuild Solomons Temple.

Basically, modern Jesuits are crypto-Jews and are not true Christians. There is a academic book called Jesuits as thr Synagouge of Satan. It details thr orogins of the Jesuits as shipping merchants and the large Jewish converso to hide the fact that they were Jews.

Although, it doesn't detail our modern day Jesuits, in my reseaarch, which I'll post in a few weeks illustrates that they are futurists, humanists and in no way real Christians. They even promote tje Rockefellers disclosure project, which in itself is weird.

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Short answer: Crypto Jews. The parents of Loyola, the founder of Jesuits, were Jewish but had to convert. I'll be back.

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I Posted something to you concerning the oath hoax. People fail to me tion that the traditionalist catholic church, presently some nwo liberal, futurist nightmare, was against the Jesuits who were kicked out of 89 countries. Many popes condemed the Jesuits for their subversion and liberal reformation of traditional Catholicism.

Jewish zionists judaized the protestant denominations, changing scripture, in so that Israel can become the land of the Jews, even the Jewish communist neocons took advantage of the church, shapeshifting their political ideology from trotskyism, to so called liberalism and then to conservatism to take advantage of the church. Billions goes to Israel, Judeo-christianity contributes another hundred million for subsidized morgages for Israelis in Israel. Millions are homeless in the US and we continue to give Israel welfare in the billions. Nevertheless, the changing of scripture means Jews can then be the chosen ones who have the right to the land of Israel, despite the original texts portraying a spiritual, not a physical manifestation of the messianic age. Why couldn't they also control the papacy. Clearly, the Pope doesn't adhere to the traditionalists of thr RCC. So, who is he really?

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Ezekiel 37:8d, where God prophesied that He would bring Israel back to life, and stand her on her feet, but initially put "no spirit" in her (the holy spirit is Jesus Christ John 15:26) without a belief in Jesus Christ as Messiah

The entire nation is an occultist paradise where the wicked go to congregate.

Israel is what their own faith says. A pegan, evil wasteland devoid of righteousness. And in legal terms, they violated international law by simply taking and pillaging the land. And they continue to violate human rights to this day with a totally subservient population under their control as they spread like a vicious cancer in the middle-East and the West.

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He is the Black Pope or if you prefer, the Anti-Christ.

I think we are starting to get on the same page here.

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Continued...

In his article Synagogue of Satan, John S. Torell states:

“In 1491 San Ignacio De Loyola was born in the Basque province of Guipuzcoa, Spain. His parents were Marranos and at the time of his birth the family was very wealthy. As a young man he became a member of the Jewish Illuminati Order in Spain. As a cover for his crypto Jewish activities, he became very active as a Roman Catholic.”

Marranos are Spanish Jews who outwardly converted to a different religion, often times Roman Catholic, in order to evade persecution and expulsion for their actions, while secretly maintaining the religion of Judaism as well as practicing the Cabbala (Jewish Mystisism).

Furthermore, Loyola’s secretary, Polanco, was also of Jewish descent and was the only person present at Loyola’s deathbed. James Lainez who succeeded Loyola as the second Jesuit General was also of Jewish descent.(#) Add a (W) after the (E) in Jesuits and what do you get? Jewsuits. A more fitting name.

It’s quite funny how the promoters in the “Jesuits run it all” theories conveniently fail to mention these important facts and attempt to project the Jesuits as purely Roman Catholic. This same people have the audacity to call us “anti-Semites” while promoting blatantly anti-Catholic conspiracy theories with no facts in hand at all. The Jesuits themselves are crypto-Jews. Certain Zionist Jews disguise themselves as the religion of their enemies, continue with their treachery under this false guise, and then get everybody to blame their disguise for the world’s problems. Ingenious, but not suprising.

The Pope Wears a Yarmulke

Jewish infiltration of the Vatican stems back many hundreds of years, and it would be safe to say that the Jews have a strong vice-grip over that institution, from the inside out. One of the most blatant examples of the Jewishness of the Vatican is the fact that the Pope himself wears a fricken Yarmulke.

Why is the pope wearing a Yarmulke? Please explain.

The Pope Sucks Up to Israel

Pope Benedict w/ Shimon Peres and Bibi Netanyahu

Pope Benedict has made several visits to Israel where he blatantly sucks up to them and praises them.

There are multiple instances where Israel and Jews have attempted to demonize the Vatican when they aren’t co-operative or subservient to their will. One example is the Jewish-controlled mass media going on a massive demonization campaign against Catholic priests (i.e. Jesuits) with accusations of pedophilia and Satanism. While some of these accusations have proven to be true, many of these claims could easily be embellished or fabricated by the Jewish-controlled mass media when the Vatican does something the Zionists don’t like — for instance when the Vatican strongly OPPOSED the Iraq war. Blackmail anyone? And whose to say that these Pedophiles and Satanists in the Catholic Church aren’t just crypto-Jews? To boot, the man who came out with a lot of those accusations was Fr. Malachai Martin who is a ex-Jesuit Zionist who, during the second Vatican Council, drafted the document which exonerated the Jews from culpability in the execution of Jesus Christ. So, the man who writes books claiming the Catholic Church is full of pedophiles and Satanists is a Zionist who exonerates the Jews for murdering Jesus. Go figure.

Another more recent example of Jews trying to demonize the Vatican in the press was this story about how a pamphlet that was being passed out to the IDF troops in Israel claimed that the Vatican was training Hezbollah how to kill Jews.

It is redundantly obvious that the Vatican is infiltrated and blackmailed by Jews which utterly puts to shame any notion that the “Jesuits” control anything let alone Israel and Jews. It’s the other way around.

Who Controls the Vatican Treasure?

The Jewish Encyclopedia (Vol. 2, p. 497) admits that…

“A number of Catholics undertook to organize a competitor bank to rival the Rothschild power… sometime about 1830. The Rothschild’s crushed it.”

It says further:

“It is a somewhat curious sequel to the attempt to set up a Catholic competitor to the Rothschilds that at the present time (1905) the latter are the guardians of the papal treasure.” (#)

So the Jewish Rothschild banking dynasty controls the Vatican treasure. They Cannot Explain Away Bishop Williamson, A Truth Hero.

Bishop Williamson - Truth Hero

Catholic Bishop (Jesuit) Richard Williamson is a great man who has valiantly publicly stated that 9/11 was a fraud, a lie, and that the holocaust WAS RIPE with exaggerations. Many of these Black Popers will shy away from any reference of Bishop Williamson and nary a mention of one of his excellent sermons exposing 9/11 among other crimes.

Do Jesuits control the Media, own Hollywood, the Federal Reserve, and constantly inhabit high positions in government? Nope. Have Jesuits been expelled from 109 locations since 250 AD? Nope. Did Jesuits run much of the African Slave trade, instigate WWI & WWII, invent Communism & Neo-Conservatism, perpetrate the 9/11 attacks, attack the U.S.S. Liberty, assassinate JFK, run the Diamond District, Porn Industry, run the Drug Trade? Nope. Are you called “anti-Catholic” for blaming Jesuits for everything under the sun that they don’t even do? Nope, but we’re called anti-Semitic for blaming the people which ALL of the evidence shows are the ones responsible.

Any further discussion of this topic is a complete and utter waste of time. In fact that is the whole point of this Jesuits stuff is… to waste your time. It is just another Jewish distraction that people like to point at to cover for the Jewish crime network. It is no different than blaming the Bilderbergers, the Illuminati, or the New World Order in general terms. The sad thing is that the people who believe in this stuff think they are “awake” and “in the know” and that everybody else is being “fooled” and “led astray”.

:: Let me make it clear the majority of Jews are innocent.

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Posted this awhile back. Sourced from mostly from the acedemic book The Jesuits: The Synagogue of Satan?

Ludendorfs book "Das Geheimnis Der Jesuitenmacht Und Ihr Ende" he agreed that the Jesuits are controlled by Jews.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/28309458/L...9-Scan-Fraktur

Ludendorff, Erich. Das Geheimnis der Jesuitenmacht und ihr Ende/The Secret of the Jesuits Power and their Goals. Mathilde Ludendorff. Munich: Ludendorffs Verlag, c. 1934. Catholic Church Controversial Literature; Jesuits; Controversial Literature.

Last years and death Ludendorff in 1935

After 1928, Ludendorff went into retirement, having fallen out with the Nazi party. He no longer approved of Hitler and began to regard him as just another manipulative politician, and perhaps worse.

In his later years, Ludendorff went into a relative seclusion with his second wife, Mathilde von Kemnitz (1874–1966), writing several books and leading the Tannenbergbund.

He concluded that the world's problems were the result of Christians (especially of the Jesuits and Catholicism), Jews, and Freemasons. Together with Mathilde, he founded the "Bund für Gotteserkenntnis" (Society for the Knowledge of God), a small and rather obscure esoterical society of Theists that survives to this day.

In an attempt to regain Ludendorff's favour, Hitler paid Ludendorff an unannounced visit in 1935 and offered to make him a Field Marshal. Infuriated, Ludendorff angrily replied, "a Field Marshal is born, not made". When Ludendorff died in Tutzing in 1937, he was given - against his explicit wishes, a state funeral attended by Hitler, who declined to speak. He was buried in the Neuer Friedhof in Tutzing.

http://www.israelect.com/reference/W...ius_Loyola.htm

The first Jesuits were crypto‑Jews. Ignatius Loyola himself was a crypto‑Jew of the Cabala. A crypto‑Jew is a Jew who converts to another religion and outwardly embraces the new religion, while secretly maintaining Jewish practices. As John Torell explains:

"In 1491 San Ignacio de Loyola was born in the Basque province of Guipuzcoa, Spain. His parents were Marranos and at the time of his birth the family was very wealthy. As a young man he became a member of a Jewish order in Spain. As a cover for his crypto Jewish activities, he became very active as a Roman Catholic. On May 20, 1521 Ignatius (as he was now called) was wounded in a battle, and became a semi‑cripple. Unable to succeed in the military and political arena, he started a quest for holiness and eventually ended up in Paris where he studied for the priesthood. In 1539 he had moved to Rome where he founded the "JESUIT ORDER," which was to become the most vile, bloody and persecuting order in the Roman Catholic Church. In 1540, the current Pope Paul III approved the order. At Loyola's death in 1556 there were more than 1000 members in the Jesuit order, located in a number of nations."

Ignatius of Loyola's secretary, Polanco, was of Jewish descent and was the only person present at Loyola's deathbed. James Lainez, who succeeded Loyola as the second Jesuit General, was also of Jewish descent. Jews were attracted to the Jesuit order and joined in large numbers. Lacunza was no exception. He was a Jew, which explains why he introduced the eschatological teaching of a return to the Jewish animal sacrifices during the Millennium. (In a book titled The Coming of the Messiah in Glory and Majesty published in 1812, 11 years after the death of its author, a Jesuit.

Emanuel de Lacunza who, wrote under the fictitious pen name of a purportedly converted Jew, Rabbi Juan Josaphat Ben Ezra, in order to conceal his identity and to make his writings more palatable to the Protestant readers. He promoted the writings of sixteenth century Jesuit priest Francisco Ribera, developing a futuristic perspective which restricted the prophetic fulfillments in the book of Revelation to the end of the world). Lacunza also wrote that during a millennium after the tribulation the Jewish animal sacrifices would be reinstated along with the Eucharist (the mass) of the Catholic Church. Lacunza has followed after Jewish fables and replaced the commandments of God with the commandments of men. That doctrine gives the Jews primacy in God's plan and relegates Christians to a prophetic parenthetical to be supplanted by the Jews during the thousand year earthly reign of Christ!

Anyone who has been involved in “truth seeking” for some time now is sure to have come across the people who will try to convince you that the Jesuit Order (aka Society of Jesus) are really at the top of this worldwide crime network, even with a dwindling membership. These people will relentlessly and tirelessly attempt to fill your head with ideas that the Jesuits of Rome really run the show from behind the scenes and that everything else is “disinformation”. This theory seems to have become more popular and far reaching on the internet and you will see more and more people parroting this stuff loud and clear to anyone who will naively listen. I am going to show you that not only is this theory nonsense but that iy is popular primarily amongst Zionists, but are not many of the Jesuits crypto-Jews? Yes, so even if this ridiculous theory were true, it would still mean that the Jews are and always have been behind this global criminal cabal. Not all Jews but a specific group of Jews adhereing to the ZIonsit network, and this operation is by no means small.

Who Promotes this Theory and Why?

First let us discuss the very people who promote this nonsense and analyze them to see if it gives us any indications of what their motives might be. The biggest and most popular promoter of this stuff is a guy named Eric John Phelps who wrote a book called Vatican Assassins in which he makes a series of superfluously unsubstantiated claims alleging that the Vatican & the Jesuits run the world and is behind everything from the JFK assassination to 9/11. This book is pretty much a 99.99% made up lie.

WIth few sources to go by we must take Phelps word for his claims. Unsurprisingly he was taken to school in a debate vs. Michael Collins Piper, author of the great book Final Judgment. Eric Phelps has a ridiculously palpable connection that clearly illustrates why he promotes what he does. On his website under the donations section it asks for all money orders to be sent to the address of LOWVEHM Inc., the company he runs. Now if you go to the LOWVEHM website you will quickly see that it is a diamond and jewels company that receives its diamonds wholesale straight from Tel Aviv, Israel! Need I say any more? I shouldn’t have to but I will. Not only does this Israeli diamond thing make him look like a total shill but he admitted that his wife is a Russian Jew and that he is a Christian Zionist himself. He also smears anyone who doesn’t agree with his nonsense by calling them a “Jesuit Coadjutor” (which is just a pathetic made up fictional term).

There is plenty more dirt on the guy but this is just so over-the-top obvious that I am gobsmacked that anyone actually takes anything this guy says seriously.

Why is it that Phelps’ paypal account works just fine, when anybody who says anything about certain Jews or Zionists on their website gets their paypal immediately shut down? The answer is obvious, the Jesuits don’t run squat. Other than Phelps, the people who usually promote the Jesuits stuff are either Jews, Christian Zionists, or just kooks who are bored with blaming the obvious culprits and are looking for a “cool” / “interesting” conspiracy theory to fantasize about. I’ve chatted with quite a few of these people on youtube and other places and if you take a look at their profiles they promote pretty much anything that sounds crazy & far-out like the “No Planes” and “Space Beams” on 9/11 theories. Why do a majority of them also promote that stuff as well? Becaus either, they are childish or they are agents.

The Jesuits are in fact Jewish

One of the most devastating things to the notion that the Jesuits are at the top of this thing is the fact that more than a lot of the Jesuits are in fact Jewish. The Jesuit Order is in reality a Jewish Order masquerading as a Catholic one as a cover, so even if they were at the top it’s still a Jewish/Zionist conspiracy.

"We Jesuits take pleasure in admitting those of Jewish ancestry." J. Nadal Morey

An excellent resource documenting all the so called Jesuits who are really Jews turned Catholic, hence “crypto-Jews”, can be found at JewishJesuits.com.The Jesuit Order in its founding was very much Jewish. All five of its founding members were Marrano Jews (i.e. Jews masquerading as Christians).

Ignatius Loyola - Founder of the Jesuit Order (JEW)

Alfonso Salmeron - Jewish

Diego Lainez - Jewish

Nicolas Bodadilla - Jewish

Simao Rodriguez - Jewish

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Nice job naming names. Good list for further research.

Can we really label Trump as a Jesuit when he and his dad were very Jewish friendly and Trump has/had a personal Khaballah mentor? Tip of the iceberg, I could go on..

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Catholic church has been hijacked in the 60's. It no longer serves Christians. It is the antithesis of what Christ preached. We now see Jesuits mingling with Rabbis, changing scripture, etc,. Many people have come out and said thr Catholic Church was infiltrated by communists and atheist Jews. It no longer serves Chritianity.

Funny enough, the Catholic church despised the Jesuits hundreds of years ago. And now we have our first Jesuit humanist, futurist pope.

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To be a real Jesuit someone must first be a Catholic priest and then take the extreme Jesuit oath, that is very interesting in itself. All this is according to my friend who went through high school in Catholic schools. I do not claim to be an expert by any means but the oath allows Jesuits to lie and be all things to all men. It is only a few pages and really helps you understand what they are up to.

I got carried away with that list but it does show how well-placed only Georgetown grads are around the world.

I will see if I can find the oath and link it below. Possibly I made a few enemies with the Jews Don't Run America post.

Here is the oath: http://www.reformation.org/jesuit-oath.html Note that this is the extreme version of the oath for high-level Jesuits. There may be other versions.

They are told to infiltrate Protestantism (that Jesuits vow to destroy), and when necessary to pose as Jews or a member of any group because "the end justifies the means."

Their goal is power, total power, and they promise, in the oath, to give their lives for the Jesuit goal.

One of their goals is to destroy America. Yes. Another is to destroy or at least modify the King James Bible and they have been somewhat successful with the new, modern versions of the Bible you must have seen. They want to cut Jesus out of the bible.

Even Napoleon warned against them.

Tacked on thought: High-level Masons work very closely with Jesuits, sometimes, not always. Do you remember Chertoff who was the first top guy in the DHS? He was a dual-passport Israeli but also a Knight of Malta, a Catholic organization. Go figure. The Jesuits and Jews are very incestuous, maybe in more than one sense.

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Interesting, Chertoff was in the Knight of Malta? Isn't he Jewish and a neoconservative?

Source for this? I need a source because I'm writing something on the CFR membership and Chertoff is one of a few thousand members. I'm writing small profiles on them.

Also, the knights of malta have connections with swiss intelligence, basically every powerful institution amd secret society does. For instance, Dominic Suter, the owner of URBAN Moving Systems, a Mossad front caught celebrating 9/11, later fled to Israel and is now in the Swiss army. I looked at his profile and interestinly, now scrubbed, but I got the pictures saved locally and a high censored video called, 'Is this a 9/11 suspect' illustrates that he was in swiss army intelligence in the 90's as well, when he was here in the US.

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Wrote an answer for this and it disappeared because I have so many windows open.

Chertoff is certainly Jewish and apparently a Neocon. The source for Chertoff is the same I linked above: https://govbanknotes.wordpress.com/2017/05/31/pope-francis-first-jesuit-pope-jesuit-extreme-oath-of-induction/

Jeff Rense (Yes, maybe dodgy) interviews Herbert Dorsey, author of several books including Rulers of Evil. He is elderly and not well apparently but makes the assertion about Chertoff. You will see the podcast that looks like a video if you scroll down. It is titled Shadow Government.

I believe that Skull & Bones definitely is part of the shadow government, or whatever you want to call it. I also believe but have no proof, that Bush may not have been told of 9/11 beforehand. If you remember on the day of 9/11 Bush was in Florida and his plane flew around for hours before it got back to DC. It may have taken someone a few hours to explain it to him since he is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

So shills within shills. I will tell you one theory of mine that is just a hunch: the Jews created the Catholic Church or if not, infiltrated it via Loyola, whose parents were indeed Jewish but had to convert or leave Spain. Is that preposterous? It would explain how Jews and Catholics are sometimes interchangeable.

Swiss Intel or Octagon, keeps a low profile but is quite powerful. If there is a global conspiracy, they are a part of it. The world's largest bank, the Bank of International Settlements (BIS), is Swiss.

Some believe that Octagon has its roots in the Knights Templars and even further back to ancient Egypt. Isis Horus Seth on the Jesuit logo has got to mean something.

I didn't give you many sources but I hope this helps a bit.

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If masons work with Jesuits then both are likely crypto-Jewish fronts. Freemasonary is filled with Kabbalah rituals and many references to the rebuilding of Solomon's Temple.

No way in the world real Christians would want to take out Jesus from the bible. Apostate Jews and Luciferians certainly would.

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Jesuits are not real Christians. Thus we see the IHS logo on their coat of arms and on the pope's coat of arms. IHS goes back to Babylonia and Egypt. We are dealing with an ancient evil that predates Christianity by centuries...millennia. A recent dig uncovered an ancient Temple of Horus under the City of London. Jesuits are pagan.

May I repeat an old joke here but nothing personal intended:

Jesus is coming back but this time he is really pissed off.

I'm not attacking you; we're working together to figure this out.

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Did it start in Heliopolis? That's where all the mystery religions came from it seems.

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I present this as an alternative viewpoint because I am not certain this is truth but it is beginning to look that way. Mr. Lamont is a Christian but I profess no religion. Historically, Jesuits have preferred to rule from the shadows.