Google is reportedly drawing up plans to charge for AI-enhanced search features

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[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

A LLM would still need an index for high performance

Forget high performance and think free from manipulation and data collection. As time goes on google's appetite for control grows. As google gets more and more tyrannical people grow more desperate for alternatives. There will be a tipping point when the quality of the alternative and the demand for an alternative cross and then everyone will abandon google for the alternative.

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

How would every single individual defend against misinformation? They can't. All Google needs to do is push a main stream narrative, because otherwise they won't have eyeballs anymore. You seem to assume this magical anti-misinformation technology is going to be available open-source .

I think full text regular expression search for the web or some subset of the web would be interesting to have, but even that requires tremendous resources. Searching without any index is just not realistic.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

All Google needs to do is push a main stream narrative, because otherwise they won't have eyeballs anymore.

Google does not have to push any narrative. It is morally corrupt of them to push a narrative, even if their intentions are good.

It seems you are incredulous about the potential of implementation because you are coming from a developer's perspective in which you are practiced in fitting ideas into existing architectures because you build software systems that have to work on current hardware. From my perspective I see that hardware changes very rapidly and I see that LLM's built on transformers do not behave like all other software, a fact that I constantly see developers not understand. Maybe I am wrong and you are right, but I am going to have to disagree. I don't think I can change your mind but I think you should try to keep an open mind in the future as you watch the space evolve, and keep an eye out for search agents and potential ways to improve search for everyone.

[–]binaryblob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You should learn to articulate your ideas better and you should understand that I am not merely a "developer". You still have not provided an equation for what is required to happen before a locally running LLM is going to crush Google Search + a big tech implementation of LLMs. Let's say all uses of Google Search are done by LLM agents, then do you not think Google will simply start charging for API access? So, whoever implements an LLM still needs an API for rank based search, if alone to be able to verify sources.

I think you are literally incapable of providing a multi-agent differential equation describing the economics surrounding LLMs.

If you want to do another attempt, you should just assume that I am much smarter than you will have be or have been in your life and have more experience. Just describe an actual vision of the future (also specify how many years in the future you are describing) based on actual plausible physics.