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[–]IkeConn 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Everyone in my extended family that took it when they got Covid lived. The one lefty holdout that refused it died. We are all sorry he died but it was his choice.

[–]zyxzevn 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

FAKE SCIENCE!!!!
From flccc I learned that this studies used different test groups.

All studies at: http://c19ivermectin.com It works very well.
Imermectin is EXTREMELY CHEAP.
But Big Pharma wants profits, so they create fake studies that pretend that it does not work.
Also HCQ works http://c19hcq.com when used early, in combination with Zinc very well.
And Vitamin D works, and many more. ALL MEDICINE AT: http://c19early.com

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Big Pharma wants profits

And they are the ones that make Ivermectin. Isn't Merck a giant pharmaceutical company?

The rich and powerful want the poor to put these tablets into their stomachs. Bill Gates, one of the richest men of the world, has been pushing Ivermectin for years, known by its generic name Mectizan.

How much did the COVID shot cost? Didn't people get that for "free"? It's not only about the money for the pharmaceutical dose today, but the real prize being fought for is the soul.... for eternity. The mark of the beast is next, as Jesus warned.

If people want to be healed, they should repent and turn to the Lord in prayer. I have never taken Ivermectin and I got over the flu symptoms naturally in a short time.

[–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

And they are the ones that make Ivermectin

It is super cheap and if it worked, their vaccines couldn't be authorized. That is 200 billion dollars industry

Edit: And no, the vaccines were not for free. Tax money pays it.

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

if it worked

Studies show it doesn't help reduce deaths or reduce the length of a hospital stay.

vaccines were not for free

Companies like Walmart were actually paying their employees to take the shots.

[–]Tarrock 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Jimmy Dore interviewed a guy the other day who got #cancelled for saying that ivermectin was effective. One of the things he stated was big pharma loved doing studies that ivermectin was ineffective in countries where people had to regularly take ivermectin due to malaria.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx7EBmSoSYw

[–]iamonlyoneman 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

https://c19ivm.org/meta.html

If a study shows ivermectin doesn't help with covid, it was designed and carried out to give that result. The science is very clear by now.

edit: the secondary endpoints in the study you linked are to be considered "exploratory" and the primary endpoint showed up to a 13% shorter duration of illness LOL the fancy graphs have consistent trends of "ivm helps some"

[–]thoughtcriminal 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

The variants of COVID that would have most likely benefited from Ivermectin are already extinct. This study is from early-mid 2022 when omicron was the dominant variant, which presents in the vast majority of the population as cold-like symptoms. Out of this entire study group only 6 people were hospitalized effectively making this study n=6. By the time most people are calling their doctors for treatment, they already have severe symptoms.

Ivermectin is a generic drug. Anyone can make it and it costs less than $1 to produce. Pharmaceutical companies don't benefit from you buying a generic dose of Walmart brand Ivermectin, but they do stand to lose a lot if that ends up being an effective alternative treatment over their proprietary mRNA vaccines.

I'm not saying ivermectin IS effective, I just don't know. But ultimately ivermectin is an extremely safe drug. The reasoning for using ivermectin is sound, so if you doctor prescribed it to you why not take it to potentially improve your recovery with no downside? Instead we tried to take away their medical licenses and frame it as horse de-wormer.

[–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If ivm was effective, then the vaccines couldn't get emergency authorization, so they had to create the impression that it was ineffective

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

with no downside

Ivermectin has many adverse effects.

[–]thoughtcriminal 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Did you read your own study? The study looks at an outlier country and concludes there could be confounding factors with reporting. That's not evidence of adverse effects from the drug.

When all 34 onchocerciasis-endemic countries are considered together, the incidence of reported SAEs following ivermectin treatment appears to be low: approximately 1 case per 800,000 treatments.

Ivermectin is listed on the WHO's list of essential medicines, one of the criteria is safety:

Essential medicines are those that satisfy the priority health care needs of a population. They are selected with due regard to disease prevalence and public health relevance, evidence of efficacy and safety and comparative cost-effectiveness.

Taking a standard dose of ibuprofen or an mRNA vaccine are both hundreds of times more likely to cause an adverse effect than taking ivermectin.

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Did you read your own study?

The title says enough for me to skip the pharmaceuticals they (and you) are trying to get us to ingest.

Serious adverse events following treatment with ivermectin for onchocerciasis control: a review of reported cases.

You quoted a low incidence of SAEs (Serious Adverse Events) but we know how low reporting can be, as demonstrated with the COVID shots and the VAERS database.

But I said, "Ivermectin has many adverse effects", which includes much more than SAEs:

such as fever, headache, pruritus, lymphadenopathy and myalgia [...] typically occur upon first exposure to the ivermectin

It's common for people to have adverse effects from Ivermectin and the pharmaceutical does not offer any benefit for COVID.

As for me, I don't take any pharmaceuticals for anything, and I thank the Lord for being my Healer and Comforter. You might not believe this, but I share it for anyone reading: When I was sick years ago, an angel visited me in a dream and gave me healing from God. And I was healed. I know the power of the Lord Jesus Christ is real and available to anyone who puts their trust in him, but few do. They would rather take a poison and continue to live in darkness.

[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

  • willing to take a "vaccine" with a 0.1% rate of horrific side effects, known to kill millions of people in every country
  • trying to convince people not to take a drug with a 0.00% rate of mild side effects

[–]thoughtcriminal 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The title says enough for me

well this explains a lot

they (and you) are trying to get us to ingest

I haven't told you to do anything nor made any medical recommendations.

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

well this explains a lot

Did you mean this as an insult? If I see warnings of adverse effects from what the pharmaceutical companies push on us, and I disregarded the warnings, I would be a fool, especially since this product does not help the people with "COVID". And you, while not telling me to insert the tablets into my mouth, are trying to convince me and anyone reading this that it is "safe and effective" just like what they say about the COVID shots. You said:

ivermectin is an extremely safe drug. The reasoning for using ivermectin is sound

You sound like a salesman for this pharmaceutical product. I shared with you evidence to the contrary, and why? I don't want people to be deceived and to fall into the traps set by our adversary. If people would stop putting their trust in the pharmaceutical companies and their sorceries, people could turn to the only one who is able to save them, the one who gave them life and is able to heal: The Lord Jesus Christ.

And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. [Revelation 18:23]

sorceries = pharmakeia