https://www.instagram.com/tv/CQfqaRDnS36/

I want to point out something. In the second video (I linked above), one of the women says that they were in there with a 9 year old and a 14 year old, neither of whom had ever seen a penis before and were traumatized. I just want to point out that even if these girls HAD seen a penis before or were not visibly traumatized (and we do know that trauma can be invisible for years) that it would still be wrong for an adult with those genitals to be exposed to them, or for their unclothed bodies to be exposed to that person. I think we need to be clear about our expectations that the boundaries of safeguarding for children do not depend on those children's emotional response to violation of those boundaries. It is only recently that we have become aware, as a society, that grooming children to accept boundary violations is problematic. We need to ensure that society does not walk that standard backwards.