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    [–]lefterfield 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    There's nothing inherent in a name that makes it belong to one sex or the other. People change their names all the time, legally or not. What he doesn't own is what pronouns other people call him. Also, if you called him 'Roberto White', no one would know who that is.

    [–]WhiteZealot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    There's nothing inherent in a name that makes it belong to one sex or the other.

    Yes, and what's your point? People can call others whatever they want. I believe that calling tra--ies by the name they take on when they start identifying as the opposite sex, especially if that name is most commonly used by said opposite sex, does harm to both the tra--y and society at large. It enables them in their delusion instead of trying to get them real help (if they want it), and it promotes several harmful things to onlookers: 1) that the person is now the opposite sex, 2) obedience to the ruling order, and 3) that we should always call others what they (the others) want to be called, which most likely will extend to calling others the sex they want to be called.

    It's beneficial to my political opponents and harmful to my interests to use the new name, and so I don't. I suggest you all do the same.

    [–]lefterfield 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    And I disagree that it's beneficial to anyone. It makes the argument more about "gender" than sex. He can call himself whatever he wants, he's still a he. And especially on the subject of names - the "genderization" of them changes over time. Since I don't agree, I will decline to follow your suggestion.

    [–]Irascible-harpy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I agree with using someone's actual name, but we don't allow slurs. He's transgender or trans. You could argue he's transsexual. There's nothing added to the conversation by using an offensive abbreviation.