GC fave Charlotte Clym*r hired by pro-choice group! An anti-feminist TiM, who thinks biological sex is a choice, hired to advocate for abortion rights - you can't make this shit up.

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[–]jet199 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I saw Andy Ngo saying Clymer had encouraged violence against him.

Like any narcissists as he keeps getting away with stuff he will get more and more extreme until he really hurts someone.

Also I think those against the woke see him clearly as a weak point they can attack so expect more stuff to keep coming out.

[–]BEB[S] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

My friend actually found Clymer's employment announcement Tweet retweeted on a conservative Twitter account she dislike-follows.

The conservative was like WTF? about Clymer now being hired by a pro-choice organization, so I think you're right that Clymer and his shenanigans will give conservatives a nice, BIG, hypocritical target as they fight back against gender ideology.

What I don't get is why so many "Progressives" are snowed by this guy? Literally a simple web search would dig up a plethora of controversies surrounding him.

[–]jet199 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Because teflon trans.

[–]BEB[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The unquestioning support that TiMs get is baffling, but we've been groomed by the media for years to think that TWAW - the most-persecuted WOMEN on Earth!

Reality is going to hit soon, but not till after the gender lobby has made sure that actual women have to re-fight for even our basic human rights.

[–]Finnegan7921 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not just teflon trans. Teflon left. A reporter did the "swap the quote" experiment for something maxine waters had said regarding publicly harassing conservatives. They used the exact same quote, from two years ago, but aimed it at members of Cuomo's admin, and you guessed it, they were OUTRAGED.

[–]BEB[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

A friend told me about this and I have not stopped laughing.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

I'll bet a lot of people on Twitter believe Clymer is an actual woman. Their Twitter bio leaves out the 'trans' bit.

[–]BEB[S] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Of course his bio leaves out he's a man! Stealth is the gender lobby's MO

However, if this org can't figure out that The Climber is a man - he's a hulk in photos, so how incongruous must he look in person? - they have no business claiming they advocate for abortion rights. Abortions are for women. I can't believe in the US, in 2021, I have to type that out...

[–]Femaleisnthateful 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I haven't followed Clymer's career closely, but has he ever done anything to meaningfully advocate for the interests of women? TRA 'feminists' always seems to be advocating for trans rights to the exclusion of all else, for some reason..

[–]BEB[S] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

He's a self-promoting, sinister, gasbag, IMO, who, for some completely unfathomable reason, gets accolades from all over (Kamala Harris! Chelsey Clinton!), even though a simple web search would reveal that there's accusations that he abused women online, back when he was a "male feminist," and a twitter hashtag talking about what a tool he is.

This website called KIWI FARMS, which I often personally find hilarious, but most people find offensive, keeps track of Clym*r, as well as other outrageous TiMs. You can find more history there, but be warned that KIWI FARMS is not for the faint of heart.

https://kiwifarms.net/threads/charles-clymer-charlotte-clymer-cmclymer.52451/

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It's mostly seen as offensive because of how the site initially started up; it's probably rightfully labelled a bullying site because it basically mocks and trolls a large number of people who are less than deserving to be targets than others. They are responsible for getting a lot of info out about horrific abusers like Ronan Oger and Jonathan Yaniv though, so they're doing necessary work that would outright get people banned from the likes of Twitter and Reddit.

[–]BEB[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Kiwi Farms mocks GC feminists too, however some KF hardcore incels seem to have a soft spot for GC feminists, because, in their minds, we're battling the "troons" (KF's slang for TiMs) and KFers love a death match, plus, in their minds, we are slightly more sane.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's very much a "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" situation. There is a hardcore incel culture there, but Kiwi Farms is also one of the few places left on the internet where you can call creeps out for their behavior.

[–]BEB[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

KIWI FARMS kind of reminds me of the US when I was growing up in the sense that people said and did all sorts of outrageous and goofy things (but in the latter case meant to be harmless fun) that if said/done now would cause the young 'uns to run screaming to their safe spaces.

[–]PassionateIntensity 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

KF has a really bad IMO unearned reputation. It's not worse than any other site that contains views I don't agree with, and you don't get banned for not toeing the line. There are some shitty people there but there are also lots of nice ones.

[–]lefterfield 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah, honestly it's no worse than reddit in terms of the conversations and people. The difference is they don't have obvious protected groups like reddit does.

[–]akkordeonplayer 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They do have archives and excellent links.

[–]ekb88 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yea, and if a pic is labeled NSFW on KF, for the love of god, don’t open it. Made that mistake once. Not sure I’ve recovered!

[–]DorothyGale 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

lol.

Been there :O

[–]ekb88 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

And of all the people to hire him. Why on earth would a Catholic group hire him?!?! I’m sick.

[–]BEB[S] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And apparently this organization can't do a simple web search, because there is so much out there about Our Chuckie's written attacks on women, including an article in left wing rag, SALON, IIRC.

Hell, Chuckles even has his own #StopClym*r hashtag on Twitter!

[–]lefterfield 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Well, apparently it's not a Catholic group either, in the sense of being acknowledged or recognized by the Catholic church in any way. I'm not sure what the point of calling themselves Catholic is, when it seems like the church isn't going to listen to any of their arguments.

[–]ekb88 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think their intent is to represent Catholics who disagree with the church’s stance on abortion. I consider myself politically pro-choice, and I know I’m not alone. But most people I’ve seen within the church who would be labeled that way also want a reduction in abortions through other means, like supporting young women economically, universal healthcare, etc.

The tone on the social media from this group is frankly disrespectful. And I’m a bit befuddled that this group is headed up by a lesbian and has a biological man for a comms director. Where are the straight women who are most impacted by the issue? Or any actual catholic people, for that matter?

[–]lefterfield 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think their intent is to represent Catholics who disagree with the church’s stance on abortion.

Yeah, I get that. Just not sure I trust the motives of a group that employs a fake woman and a fake feminist to talk about an issue that's both feminist and affects only women. Catholics who are pro-choice should be able to join any pro-choice group. If they can't(because the group is very anti-religious), then I suppose that's an issue... but joining this group doesn't look very effective either.

And I agree. The whole thing just looks incredibly sketchy.

[–]MarkTwainiac 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I find it sketchy in one way, but predictable and fitting in another way. The Catholic Church is an incredibly patriarchal institution with a long history of men telling women what we can and can't do when it comes to our reproductive systems and bodies more generally. So it's not surprising to me that a Catholic group would hire a misogynist man who has a long history of being authoritarian and abusive to women to be its voice on abortion. It's perfectly in keeping with the totally fucked up nature of the Stunning and Brave New World Order of 2021.

[–]ekb88 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, very sketchy. I wonder who funds them.

[–]akkordeonplayer 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

He probably figures he can weasel into Biden’s good graces and a political seat somehow (he is a Catholic who is “pro choice”).

[–]BEB[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Wouldn't put that line of conniving past Our Climber. After all he worked with Biden's best "gal" pal, TiM Sarah Tim McBride at HRC. Now McBride is in the Delaware state legislature, Biden's home state. Gee - how did a Biden crony get elected in Biden's home state? I wonder...

[–]Finnegan7921 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The same way his two grifter brothers and equally grifty druggie son have been failing upwards for almost 40 years.

[–]BEB[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am no fan of Biden: the Patriot Act, the Iraq War, Anita Hill, etc., so I didn't vote for him even though I loathe Trump and the GOP.

But Biden is even worse than I thought he would be: He seems to be trying to immediately and radically reorder reality, and I have to wonder what sinister forces, beyond the one we know, which is the gender lobby, are behind this push.

This Domestic Terrorism stuff scares the hell out of me.

[–]Greykittymomma 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It is chilling how fast these men are standing up to speak for real women. Transplaining my life away... I hate the thought of abortion but at least can we let women be in charge of the dialogue on that? Someone who might have to make that choice someday?

[–]Greykittymomma 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Also, wtf is up with Catholics in power again? Sorry, don't like it! You had your turn, where my agnostics, others and atheists at!? Maybe stop electing people who believe in a mad ass sky daddy?

[–]hetisachoice 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If sex is a choice then why not race? How is Rachel Dolezal/Nkeche Diallo any different?

[–]sisterinsomnia 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have been stunned by the sex differences in transgender leadership. TIMs end up as leaders in feminist places at much higher percentages than their actual numbers in the population would suggest while TIFs are quite rare in leadership roles. I can think of only one or two off the top of my head. But lots of feminist sites have many TIMs. So no wonder that Clymr would be hired to have opinions about something which will never happen to Clymr.

This is linked to the wider trend of erasing all words for biologically female people and replacing them with pejorative expressions such as vulva people while biologically male people are still called men. It has been shocking to watch because it casts light on the question how women got subjugated in the first place. Being inclusive and nice is just a polite way of describing doormattery.