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[–]oofreesouloo 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

According to identity politics today, the only thing that counts is not who one actually is attracted to, who one dates or beds, or what sex one is - but how one labels oneself or "identifies."

Exactly and that's why subs like LGBDropTheT exist because we're strongly against that very idea.

BTW, I wouldn't assume someone who dates no one is asexual. Lots of people of all sexualities don't date for all sorts of reasons. That's called celibacy, not asexuality.

So why do you use here a certain logic but with lesbianism you use a different logic? You lack consistency. If a bisexual women decides for a certain period of time (because it doesn't need to be forever) not to date men, for example, she would be "celibate" in a way in what regards to relationships of the opposite sex. She chose not to date opposite sex members, but it doesn't mean she suddenly lesbian.

At the same time, many lesbians are trying to dissociate themselves from being lesbians by calling themselves "fluid," bi, pan, saying they don't like labels, avoiding the convo altogether, or saying their pronouns are now "he/him" or "they/them."

This is unfortunately true. But guess what? Even if this is the case with Kristen Stewart or Cara Delevingne, a self-hating lesbian is no role model for young lesbians, sorry. A self-hating lesbian who is uncapable to say she's a lesbian is no role model. And we can assume things sure, but we can never be 100% whether they're lesbian or not. And the fact is neither of them came out as lesbians. So yes, Ellen Page was one of the few people we can was a lesbian role model. Apart from her (and a few other names like Ellen Degeneres and Portia de Rossi), we lack lesbian visibility a lot.

Hurling ridiculous, baseless ad hominems and accusations of "phobia" don't make for convincing arguments.

I've explained why I called you that in comments and I maintain my words. And I keep on explaining. Just own it that you were lesbophobic and biphobic.

Anyway, I've said it all so far. No further interest keeping this conversation, honestly. I'm fed up of these type of long answers trying to convince people that lesbianism isn't just exclusively attracted to females. I'm out. Have a nice day

[–]MezozoicGay 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Exactly and that's why subs like LGBDropTheT exist because we're strongly against that very idea.

It is not what we are strongly against, it is not what we are. Homosexuality is not a choice, not a performance and not what you are showing, it is just exclusive attraction to people of same sex as you are. Nothing less, nothing more.

[–]oofreesouloo 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, you put it into words much better than I did. Thank you.