Star Trek's "first nonbinary character".

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[–]lefterfield 24 insightful - 2 fun24 insightful - 1 fun25 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

She even has a very stereotypically feminine-sounding name. Is Star Trek hurting this much for ratings?

[–]bopomofodojo[S] 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The other sad thing is how good this season is shaping up to be on its own merits, they don't need this, except for woke points.

[–]Omina_Sentenziosa 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Discovery isn't exactly liked, old school fans despise the complete lack of joy everyone involved in it seems to have, hate the lack of continuity with the Canon universe and don't appreciate the darker and edgier feeling it has compared to the first 4/5 iterations of the franchise. Not to mention, the writing is atrocious and the characters are uninteresting and irritating.

I am an old but not that old fan (meaning that being in my 30s I started following the narrative universe with the remake from the '80s) and while I was initially happy that they were making more Star Trek, I have completely noped the fuck out of Discovery, and that was way before they started kissing TRAs' s asses.

The franchise in general has been decaying since the beginning of the 2000s, I would say. Voyager wasn't exactly appreciated but it still managed to run for the standard 7 seasons, but then Enterprise started (4 seasons) and Nemesis happened and that kind of killed the franchise.

The hip reboot with Chris Pine might have done some money in the beginning, but the second and third movies were trashed (the third wasn't that bad, the second was horrible). It was also not really a Star Trek trilogy, it was more a Star Wars with an Enterprise and a Kirk instead of a Millennium Falcon and a Han Solo.

Discovery has been mocked and vilified by Trekkies since the beginning of its run, I honestly have no idea why they keep making it given that it seems like nobody watches it and the few who do watch it hate it

Picard was divisive at best, better received than Discovery but it's plagued by its same problems: it is just less reviled because beloved actors and characters of the franchise showed up in it.

[–]Femaleisnthateful 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Agree with everything you said. I'm hate-watching Discovery right now. The franchise has fundamentally changed, and the showrunners are on the record as saying they wanted to break from tradition. The appeal of Star Trek of old was that it wasn't rooted in contemporary politics. It appealed to people of all backgrounds, and used futuristic settings to allow people to detach from their contemporary biases, while presenting an optimistic, humanist vision.

The current version of Star Trek is obsessed with appealing to Woke ideology. It won't age well.

[–]Omina_Sentenziosa 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not only the woke ideology, but this trend to make everything edgy and dark is really annoying and unoriginal (not just for Star Trek).

It's funny for me to see how much my opinions on the matter changed in the past 3 decades, though. When I was a child and started watching TNG, I was craving less optimistic and frankly cheesy "let's all Kumbaya together" storylines. When DS9 started airing I was in heaven because it had the right amount of optimism but it also had a more negative description of humans and I absolutely loved it (same goes for VOY: both shows really showed that humans can indeed turn vicious and evil if necessity arises and I thought it was much more believable that what TNG was selling).

But now??? Jesus, give me alien giant jellyfishes holding tentacles because they are happy to be together again as much as possible! I absolutely loathe the fact that they went all "everything is bad and will get even worse". If I wanted to witness that I would watch the news. I need some freaking hope that as a race we are not completely rotten.

I also agree with the fact that it was talking about politics and social issues without being specific and as such it appealed to more people. Right now, it's like they are completely focused on American politics and what is happening there (like the fact that it was stated that Picard is the child of the Trump administration). It's like they can't talk about anything but how awful Trump is, as of nothing else is happening in the World.

I live in another country, i want to watch something that has broader topics not just TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!