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  1. Oh. My. god. I am not defending black men. I am not talking about any of this. I was literally pointing out- initially to the op- that black men do get fetishized by white women sometimes and it is something that should be called out because it stems from and reinforces racism. And it’s like y’all are just saying “it’s okay get over it and don’t mention it” because black men are men? So white women can be racist to black men because they’re men, but snl can’t make fun of racist white women because they’re female?

I understand that men are stronger and more violent than women. I understand the fear and caution this necessitates. My whole point is that when white women get called out for racial fetishes, it’s shouldn’t just be dismissed because white women are female. Racism is racism regardless of your sex and I’d hope that real feminists would get that. I acknowledged that the situation can be reversed- But that’s not what the original post or my comment was referencing-it was about not dismissing a real issue amongst another marginalized group (black people) and saying that to me, SNL did nothing wrong by the sketch highlighting it. Since it’s not a feminist issue- it could’ve been left alone. instead of just ignoring it, or just saying “oh well Whatever that’s not related to feminism”and moving on, they decided to go back and forth with me over a topic that apparently shouldn’t even be discussed here.

I agree, it never feels great to be reduced to a stereotype. Be a it a sexist or racist one.

/2. Except we weren’t talking about just interracial porn. We were talking about porn, period, at that point. And yes, it is evident that white women get treated differently than woc in that industry. Yes they are still being exploited, yes it’s still all bad- my point, which I elaborated on, is that for a woc who works in that industry (not me- to be clear, I’m saying in general) it’s not as simple as saying “oh we’re both being exploited” there’s more to it than that because there is an element of racism in the discrepancies that the white performer is exempt from or benefiting from. Everybody loves to talk about intersectionality until we get to the parts where white women benefit from being white despite also being female.

I am not saying that the porn industry isn’t disgusting or abusive for any woman involved in it- I only said that there is even within that exploitative environment, a difference in the way those women are treated, and that difference is race. maybe people don’t want to hear that, maybe you don’t feel it’s relevant, but given the fact that we were talking about race through out the thread, it was relevant to me. I at no point said anything in support or defense of black men or men at all, let alone men in porn, I was asked- literally specifically asked about white women doing porn with black men- so that’s what I answered. I didn’t say I felt sorry for the black men allowing themselves to be exploited. I don’t, because in that situation they themselves are contributing to exploiting females. I was asked about the racial aspect of it- I gave my opinion. So all of this about men pressuring girls into porn and addiction and abuse- has nothing to do with any of what I said and There is nothing in what I said that indicates that I’m not aware of the dangers and abuses of this industry. I don’t need an education on this and would have said similar things as you If this were actually what I was discussing. It wasn’t. I swear I feel like every time I’ve ever discussed or seen someone else try to discuss anything concerning black people or poc on gender critical-even if it’s about black/poc women, these blinders go up and nobody can comprehend what is being said. And I think I figured out why lol. This is why woc made the gc sub for woc.