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[–]woodrup 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Is it crazy to think about women athletes forming a female-only league (whatever sport we’re talking about)? Men have created alternate leagues on occasions, to protest what they saw as unfair treatment. (Football and golf come to mind...) It’s really expensive, and ultimately fails, but I think the point is always to send a shiver through the establishment that things are effed up. In that, they generally succeed. (money, contracts, etc.) Sports management hates, hates, hates, hates a public row, with schism as a real possibility. I think women could reclaim their various sports by simply saying “no”. “We’re going to start our own league(s).” Greg Norman once shook professional golf to its roots by suggesting golfers get paid for exhibition tournaments that paid $zero to the golfers while making $millions for TV, sponsors, etc. etc. He even tried to create an alternate tour recently. Football has also experienced its “alternate league” attempts. They may not be successful, but the front office would quake in fear at the thought of women trying on the Greg Norman hat. (Yes, a male member mansplaining sports here. I know what it sounds like. But when wealthy men get pissed off at something and feel like they’re in the right, they start breaking things. When have women’s sports been in a better position to do the same?) I can’t stand what’s happening to women’s sports. I was a serious athlete for years (running) and I get really angry about what’s going on. And, in the end I realize women athletes would have a harder time pulling it off because the front office would pull the “woke” card. Sorry, I don’t know what the answer is.

[–]BEB[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think these are all-female leagues that are going to be opened up.

Would you be interested in a sub that would be for men who are interested in this topic to discuss it with GC women? I think that we need to reach men and discuss these issues with them because we will need men's support and numbers to get our rights back, but I also respect that s/gendercritical is a sub for women. Let me know and I'll think about starting a new sub for GC men and women.

[–]ekitten 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I've seen TRAs claim that trans women ARE female though, so all-female leagues will be targeted as well :/

[–]BEB[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There's actually a new Twitter account that's keeping track of all the times trans demands activists say that trans women are female. I will find the Twitter account and post it here so we all have proof, because they constantly lie about their stance.

[–]jelliknight 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Where do you think women's leagues came from? Many have been grass roots organized by women. It's just that now we're losing legal and organisational standing to say no to men.

They do need to say no, and to make a public spectacle if they're pressured. Unfortunately we are still having to fight to get recognition so threatening to deny the establishment the benefit of women's sports won't get us anywhere. Unlike male sports, we had to kick the door down and force our way in. Us leaving isn't a threat, it's what the establishment wants.

What they need to do it all go on to the field, and then sit down and refuse to play. Same with female lifters competing against Laurel Hubbard - take the stage, and then refuse to lift. It's a big personal cost to women who've already had to fight too hard to get where they are. It'd be good if the men supported us by doing the same thing.