What a surprise! TiF arrested during Seattle protest wants to be a woman when it comes to jail...

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[–]worried19 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

I feel bad for the kid. 19 years old. Looking at those pictures, it's hard to believe anyone would ever mistake Uribe for a man.

We may think many of these young people are misguided, but what do we want them to do? It would be dangerous for someone like this to be jailed with men. I'm just relieved Uribe obviously has enough sense to see that. There's no reason for this kid to be in isolation, either.

[–]BEB[S] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

She was put into isolation because that's standard protocol for transgender prisoners until the Transgender Review Committee can decide where they are best housed. I'm guessing that once the reality of jail hits, a lot of TiFs realize that they're female after all. Go figure...

[–]worried19 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don't get why an obviously natal female prisoner requesting to be put in with other female prisoners would need any special review, though. It should be automatic. There should only be a review if Uribe was demanding to be put in with men.

[–]BEB[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm guessing that the prison put her in solitary to ensure that men and women get equal treatment: TiM prisoners and their deep-pocketed funders, seem to be very litigious, so I'm sure that if they let TiFs access women's prisons immediately, there would soon be a TiM screaming something along the lines of, "How come he (meaning the TiF) gets to go straight to the prison of his choice and I have to be in solitary?!?!?"

[–]worried19 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Could very well be. The prison has to seem neutral regardless of sex. I suppose it wouldn't be considered fair to treat females differently from males.

[–]Shesstealthy 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It seems like a failure of communication. They didn't tell this person that they were being given this protection because of being trans specifically.

[–]BEB[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

She (the TiF) doesn't seem very bright. And I'm sure the whole experience was terrifying for her.

The police are sometimes aggressive towards protestors - I saw it firsthand when I protested Iraq War II. They would scream at us to get on the sidewalk when we were already on the sidewalk. And the protestors at the anti-war rallies I went to were mostly well-dressed professionals on their lunch hour, and middle-class moms pushing strollers, so not exactly a fearsome mob.

And that was years ago, before the police got all the US military equipment and started training in Israel, which seems to have convinced them that we are all insurgents.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israelis-training-us-police-on-large-scale-amnesty/ar-BB14S1z9

[–]just_lesbian_things 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If they want to make choices for themselves, then they need to take responsibility for it. She's not a "kid", nineteen is above the age of majority, nineteen is old enough to drive, vote, get married, own firearms, and join the army. I think GC as a whole needs to stop babying "young" people. Either they take responsibility for their choices or we raise the age of majority and take that choice from them.

but what do we want them to do?

I want her to stop lying and stop demanding that we lie too. Biological sex differences are real. It would be one thing if her idiocy only hurts herself, but other people are affected too. Speaking of taking responsibility, she needs to take responsibility not only for how her actions affect herself, but also how it affects others.

[–]worried19 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I get what you're saying, but I still feel bad. 19 is very young, maybe still a freshman in college. Yes, it's old enough to vote and go to war and all that, but people that age don't have much real life experience yet. I view Uribe as a victim, first and foremost. Primarily of the medical establishment, but also the numerous other people who should have stepped and offered real guidance and support. It could have easily been me in that position, if I'd been a little younger or in a more liberal environment.