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[–]lefterfield 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I agree that this 17 year old showed far more emotional maturity and restraint than would be expected of anyone of that age(certainly more so than the adults that were there chasing him). Watching the videos, I can point to many things the people who were shot should have done differently, but not to anything that he did wrong once he was there. I still don't agree that he should have been there, which is the same as I would say for anyone of that age and younger. Most of what I think about this kid particularly is sympathy, cause I don't have the impression that he was looking for a fight or wanted to hurt anyone - but now, two people are dead and he'll have to live with public condemnation for the rest of his life. His actions were justified, and hopefully the court will agree, but that's still a lot of potential guilt and trauma to put on someone who's barely considered an adult.

[–]OrneryStruggle 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

in that case I agree, but I'm bothered by the double standard that has kept everyone I know silent on the numerous children (many armed with automatic rifles, ironically, as in CHAZ) who have been involved in protests since Floyd's death but made them suddenly speak out on this particular 17 year old being at a protest. I am not implying you are one of those people, but this is really the first time I have seen this argument made by leftists and I'm surprised it's coming up suddenly.

Personally I think any non-adult should be kept away from protests/riots that are or are likely to turn violent, so I agree with you in principle. I don't think his mom had any say in him going though, as I understand it he went straight from work and after-work volunteerism, so I doubt she was involved in taking him.

[–]lefterfield 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I heard she did drive him, was that not true? But I agree, and I feel the same way about children being armed at any protest.

[–]OrneryStruggle 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

AFAIK she drove him across state lines to work, since he worked in Wisconsin. Don't quote me on this, I'm not 100% sure, but according to his lawyer's statement I think she drove him to Wisconsin where he worked as a lifeguard, he got off work and went to his volunteerism "job" cleaning graffiti, then went directly with a friend to the protest in response to a call for protection from a car dealership that had dealt with multiple arson attempts the previous day. I don't think his mom was involved in the job > volunteerism > protest part of the day, just initially driving him to work.

I might be wrong though, but she apparently didn't drive the gun across state lines and he got it from someone he was volunteering with as I understand it, so doubtful that she drove him to the protest directly.