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[–]Anon123[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Well, that's essentially what I'm saying though. The reaction to r/detrans taken down was different than r/gendercritical. Either reddit was afraid of looking anti-trans (and don't give a fuck about feminists saying #reddithateswomen" on twitter) or we didn't do enough to spread the word and create more backlash. What can we do to rectify in the way r/detrans did?

[–]DetransIS 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The only thing I can think of is what an existing poster said, that GC Twitter didn't have someone with enough power speaking up in regards to their ban and the voices that were screaming were drowned out by false claims made by trans extremists. The moment we got banned there was a massive storm on Twitter including massive mentions to Reddit's twitter accounts. I don't know exactly what happened regarding GC but what I heard is most women just said they were done and were going to relocate, to say here and the GC-made platform. Honestly given the rate things are going and the fact that banning me wasn't enough for trans extremists, r/detrans is on borrowed time as is especially with their increasingly growing influence and redefinition of what detransition means.

In our case I know we stressed they were making a mistake because we were a support group for those who were questioning their transition and an important lifeline for those who regretted transition.

Reddit's made it quite clear they don't really care about women given the massive amount of porn subs left unchecked and how many women subs got axed just for stating biological sex exists and women have different issues then biological males on estrogen.

[–]suzyquattrosshoes 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think people who have detransitioned are more threatening to the trans movement. Their existence destabilizes the TRA narrative (of self identification specifically, and just the whole logic of their rhetoric). If people are being transitioned who shouldn’t be, then obviously there needs to be more and better controls and screening over transition - and they don’t want that. It puts their whole MO into question. That’s why research on detransition has been quashed, it’s too dangerous.

Our logic and rationale are discounted off the bat because of sexism. They’ve painted us as a hate group, that’s all they have to do to dismiss us since callout culture emerged (and since mutually respectful platforms for debate basically don’t exist anymore).

The TRA PR campaign against actual feminists (and women) is accepted by mainstream leftism as the correct view. We’re labelled as hateful, we’re seen as having privilege. Whereas detransitioners are evidently sympathetic, being I guess one could say the underdog, I mean it’d be obviously punching down for anyone to criticize them as a group.

[–]suzyquattrosshoes 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And yeah this way they can claim to support detransitioners while controlling the narrative.