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[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Again, don’t crucify me for this next part, but, afar as the last comment of yours goes, I’d rather have someone who’s happier than someone who’s hateful and gunning down/killing people. I don’t won’t to push human-religious rhetoric (I say human-religious because religions are supposed to be loving, yet humans find some way to use it to hate others) on to people i.e. religious people trying to “convert” gays because being gay is a “sin.” (Hateful religious rhetoric when religion is supposed to be loving, right?) with that being said it is not okay what they are doing. I agree with you that it’s not okay. I’m just expressing that I’d rather have someone happier i this world than hateful. Again, I’m not excusing what they have done/still do and it is not okay.

[–]tuesday 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm a bit perplexed -- a man's incredibly sexist and poorly thought out comment inspires crucifixion and yet all us ladies are supposed to be so kind and gentle in our condemnation? You are so special...

You are conflating "happiness" with a whole host of unrelated concepts.
"happiness" does not prevent predators from gleefully terrorizing their prey.

[–]Spikygrasspod 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I mean, incels seem to be angry because women say 'no' to them. They suffer from the incredible disappointment of expecting high status and loads of sex with beautiful subservient women, and from the gap between this expectation and reality. The problem is their entitlement*. Likewise, a lot of AGPs make themselves happy by indulging in appropriating women's identity and invading their spaces. They're happy because their expectation that they're entitled to us is being facilitated by a society that supports TRA over women's rights.

*Also, it's worth thinking about who encourages this entitlement. Michael Kimmel, the theorist on men and masculinity, suggests that many white men feel real grief over the loss of social mobility and dignity that they were promised in an American that is increasingly unequal and that denies dignity to many working class people. He suggests that right wing commentators are working hard to manipulate those 'valid' negative feelings into anger at women and immigrants so that men won't look at who's really to blame for their economic problems. This wouldn't explain the entitlement that rich men feel, though. I guess there are multiple causes.

[–]IamWomanHearMeRoar 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They suffer from the incredible disappointment of expecting high status and loads of sex with beautiful subservient women, and from the gap between this expectation and reality.

Yeah that’s creepy.

The problem is their entitlement*

Isn’t that the case for men who live/come from/have a strong patriarchal background?

On a side note I believe society can benefit if all schools (public and private) have a class that teaches about abuse (along with sex ed, and communication) and the different kinds there are mental abuse, physical abuse, sexual harassment, consent and etc. From maybe fifth grade all the way to college, every year. Which continues into the workplace.