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[–]MezozoicGay 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And SMH at all the self hating women that think having some facial hair means that they would be denied housing in a female shelter

From what I saw, it is mostly transomen and men advocating for this, not women with PCOS.

On other hand I saw enough women with testosterone problems (I helped my friend in non-profit organization in our city, helping women with PCOS) and a lot of them actually were calling themselves a failure and putting all the blame on themselves (reminds islam, actually), as society tought them that it is always women fault. If husband beating her - it is "her fault" by eyes of the society. And sometimes I was invited to give them advices and help them to stop blaming themselves, aka to show them how men are tought to overcome problems, that blame is sometimes not on yourself but on people around (but often men are taking it to extreme, that blame is ALWAYS is outside, and women taking that blame is always is inside, while it is not true in both cases).

And this difference is visible even in transmen and transwomen. When transmen invading our gay men spaces, and we refusing them, they are almost always saying "it is because you find my vagina ugly? I am not passing enough?" and so on. At the same time when transwomen are invading lesbian women spaces, it is always "they just hate all dicks, they were sexual abused or something and afraid, we are passing and they are ugly" and similar. Socialization means a lot.