Shouldn't we be generally talking about trans people in general?

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[–]jkfinn 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Yes--damage for sure. And they’re really two distinct groups. TiFs are girls/women who are most often lesbians or who have lesbian tendencies who are only being enticed into trans in the same way lesbians are enticed into LGBTQ--it’s the ready and now established path to “switch genders” or approximate “male.” I think those here who need to show sympathy for transgender persons should start and end with TiFs.

[–]TheOnyxGoddess[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don't think we should show sympathy for either, they're both damaging. They're both responsible for this mass trans-entitlement and putting on the "know my pronoun" badge to force people to call them whatever they want, and that's without being prodded by males. If a TiF or TiM want to use basic logic to figure out they were scammed into some ideology, they can do so without our sympathies and with cold hard logic being smacked into their faces. The TiF I knew in real life was trying to study Bachelor of psychology and majoring in gender studies and go into clinic psychology, guess where that is going? (Hint: She believes in made up pronouns and deliberately tries to interpret ancient literature as having a trans twist, such as the Ballad of Mulan). Before she went TiF, she was an anti-white lesbian feminist, who seems to dislike white males, but hey, she's asian so she probably feels she thinks it's fine to claim to be another gender as long as she can be the non-white version of it.

Edit: Added something.

[–]jkfinn 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I only suggested it to those here who need to show sympathy for trans members (as yesterday's thread made evident). But I do believe in an incisive distinction between the two.

[–]TheOnyxGoddess[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It didn't seem clear in that thread. Also my post was not targeting that post specifically (if that is your post I don't pay attention to the name of the author), it's targeting majority of this subs posts and comments. I do agree that we should show sympathy for those who are slightly unsure about themselves and realising trans ideology is just a scam, but for those who are legit trans, I'm pretty much transphobic because those beliefs are both damaging to both females and males and are strengthened through cherry picking and twisting of interpretation of scientific research. I thought we were trying to break down gender stereotypes for christ sake and not laugh at little british boys who do ballet (I don't blame him if he wanted to transition if he still endured that attitude as he grew up).

I do believe trans people still deserve the basic human rights (e.g. no bullying), but if I could avoid being friends with one, I would, I don't want to hear about them wanting to feel special and partaking in their team of validators.

[–]Susiesmum 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think those here who need to show sympathy for transgender persons should start and end with TiFs.

I have sympathy for the young gay boys like Jazz Jennings who get pushed into transition by their parents.

[–]jkfinn 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've no problem with this, but when it's a long thread with everyone getting into the act (on a gc forum) it has a different impact than what one person is saying in a more private or personal comment.