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[–]Gynephile 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

You think people shame women for being attracted to the male body? Lol straight women are a crazy bunch. Most women think the male body is beautiful and don't like the female body at all, maybe you should spend less time talking to straight men that's all I'm saying.

[–]Mencantbewomen[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I never said this. I said that the male body is seen as something a lot less sexual than the female body, otherwise we'd see it a lot more in ads and stuff. The naked or sexy female body is expected nowadays. And despite this, female sexuality IS shamed and ridiculed. I do remember that in a final fantasy videogame, men petitioned to cover up a male character with a skimpy outfit because "it was gay". This is the kind of issues I'm talking about. And no, i have friends of every sexuality and sex.

Why do you think people defend pornography so much while shaming and ridiculing what women consume and the way they are?

[–]Gynephile 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Lol you're still talking about straight men though. Most women are not interested in video games, while straight men are the primary consumers of them. They think it's gay to even admit a man may be attractive, so why would they want to see a male character in a skimpy outfit?

And I also don't see a big difference between pornography and the erotica that women consume. Women overwhelmingly supported the Fifty shades of grey series and that 365 day movie. Maybe those people (men) who shame women for what they consume are just pointing out the hypocrisy. Men want to be violent with women and women want men to be domineering and violent with them (as long as they're handsome). Stop acting like women's desires are innocent and above criticism.

[–]Mencantbewomen[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Men want to be violent with women and women want men to be domineering and violent with them (as long as they're handsome)

Ok that's enough conversation cause you really do sound like an incel here.

[–]Gynephile 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Lol I'm not an incel, I don't really care what straight or bi women do. I am just observing what I have seen, erotica featuring violent and handsome men is very popular among women, call me what you want but it will not change that fact.

[–]Mencantbewomen[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You don't seem to understand that reality and fantasy are very different things. Erotica doesn't reflect what a woman truly wants in her life. You can't say women want this and that for sure because they read it in books or fanfiction.

[–]Gynephile 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've seen it with my own eyes, violent men are never without a woman by their side. People believe that pornography encourages men to perpetrate sexual violence against women (which is true) but women wanting violence enacted on them isn't influenced by porn and erotica? I find that very hard to believe in, I see women on social media every day talking about how they want men to choke and slap them and do much worse.