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[–]PumpkinSpiceVagina 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

One of the reasons I pulled my kids out of school for good was the new sex ed program implemented in my district. Gender indoctrination starts in kindergarten with crap like neutral pronouns and not assuming someone's gender based on what they look like. They then build on this every single year thereafter. My favorite is this shit that they are using for 3rd grade: https://www.glsen.org/activity/identity-lesson-grades-3-5 (click on the identity flowers lesson plan PDF for the full thing). It's full on TRA indoctrination for 8 and 9 year olds.

By middle school, they are on to that stupid gender unicorn thing and it's just trans trans trans, queer queer queer all the way to graduation. When they do get to actual sex ed topics like puberty, when they divide up into groups of boys and girls, the students can pick whichever group they like regardless if whether they belong to that group or not, thus negating the point of having separate groups in the first place. Then they don't call it boy's puberty or girl's puberty but a bunch of vague wishy washy bs about how many girls have periods but some boys do too and I'm sure that's not at all confusing to anyone. In 6th grade, they are role-playing date rape. By 8th grade they are talking about anal. As you can imagine, despite all this wokery, there is very little useful information to be had for anyone, just be queer, change genders, present your ass upon request and porn is good and healthy.

We were, at the very least, supposed to be able to opt out kids out of all this shit; they were supposed to inform parents well ahead of time when they would be doing this stuff and what precisely would be taught so we could pull our kids out of any or all lessons. Instead, though I had 3 kids in one school, I got exactly one email from one teacher saying that they were going to be having "health class" that week and that was it. I pulled all of them out if class, then they shut the schools for covid and I am never sending them back.

The worst part was, we had a huge meeting with the school board. Hundreds and hundreds of concerned parents came. They gave equal time to a smaller group of people who were in favor, which included an awful lot of people that I am 100% certain did not have children in our district. (I later found out that the county Democratic party as well as several local LGBTTTTTTQ orgs put out a "call to action" for people to flood into this meeting.) The school board voted unanimously to approve it and several members thought it appropriate to chide all the parents on our side for being such terrible exclusionary bigots. They will all be terribly shocked to find how low their enrollment is next year, between this and failing spectacularly at so-called distance learning.

I would love for schools to be less political. These same assholes would absolutely flip their shit if some Christians managed to ram through Bible study or something but they fail to understand that this is the same fucking thing. I don't want anybody's religion being taught to my children as fact and that includes the church of the almighty gender.

[–]PInkier 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Holy fuck. Do they not realise that letting some child not know how to put a condom on because they wanted to stay with girls for whatever reasons is a catastrophic idea ! This is dangerous and stupid.

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, in our area people don't have to have kids or grandkids in the school to join the PTA. They can just exist in the area and want to join. It shouldn't be allowed.

[–]JustAMom 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Im reading Abigail Shiers book. I made it to chapter 4 before I had to take a break. Its terrifying, reminds me of indoctrination of the Hilter youth. I dont know what I'll do when my baby is school age. Its mind boggling that this is happening in tax funded public school.

[–]emissch[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

when they divide up into groups of boys and girls, the students can pick whichever group they like regardless if whether they belong to that group or not, thus negating the point of having separate groups in the first place. Then they don't call it boy's puberty or girl's puberty but a bunch of vague wishy washy bs about how many girls have periods but some boys do too and I'm sure that's not at all confusing to anyone.

Um, wow. I am concerned for these kids. puberty and sex is already confusing enough, along with poor teaching or no teaching at all in most schools. Now you throw gender identity into the mix and you might as well have no sex ed at all. you're just confusing the fuck out of these kids. And liberals were supposed to be ones positing sex education! You might as well just go all in and teach creationism too if we are just throwing biology and science out the fucking window.

[–]Realwoman 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The date rape thing... Omg

[–]fedup31 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I’m a bit petrified about what they’re going to feed my kid, who’s 4. He’s a very sensitive little guy and we’ve never encouraged any gender stereotypes for him, so he loves both Thomas the train and Disney princesses, both dancing and throwing a baseball around. He’ll be going to catholic school which I never thought I’d do as a lapsed Catholic who had bad experiences at catholic school but it’s the closest school nearby and I’m secretly glad that will mitigate the gender messages even if I don’t agree with some of its other politics.

The public schools near me meanwhile have “genderbread person” posters up in classrooms.

[–]Anna_Nym 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I had to read and review sex curriculum several years ago in a woke location. At that time, they were generally fine. For the high school content, one of the curricula used the vague "people who have..." type language but most of them didn't. The actual sex ed and puberty information was really good in all of the curricula I read. It was much better than what I received when I went through school.

However, I saw an update to one of the ones I reviewed, and it replaced all of the girl/boy puberty language with "people who have..." language for all ages. I think this was done because of CA requirements for gender identity inclusivity in sex ed.

I expect many teachers will ignore it and use boy/girl but that there will be some fierce battles. I also expect that it will peak a lot of parents, who will learn for the first time that the dominant ideology in contemporary trans activism is actually trying to erase biology.

[–]sisterinsomnia 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Do the schools teach about homosexuality and heterosexuality as homegenderuality and heterogenderuality? However hard I try, I cannot find any logic at all in the latter concepts.

[–]Anna_Nym 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They did not in the curriculum that I reviewed.

[–]emissch[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I expect many teachers will ignore it and use boy/girl but that there will be some fierce battles.

I sure as fuck hope they ignore this but i'm afraid the tide is turning against them much harder than a few years ago. I predict teacher firings and then capitulation as this shit gets adopted.

[–]Finally 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The proper terms eg labia, vagina etc are Required in court cases

Defence lawyers will quiz victims on absolute details.

How can anyone prepare girls for this if we cant use those terms all the damn time?

[–]emissch[S] 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

wait are you saying that lawyers won't know what front hole means in court? /s

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]luckystar 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I was looking this up recently and I actually felt a bit better after I read what San Francisco schools are teaching kids. It's not as extreme as I thought. And personally I do think that kids should at least learn what transgender people are because they are likely to encounter them (around here at least) so it's good for them to have a fairly neutral basic understanding. The definition they teach kids of "transgender" is:

Transgender (K-5): When someone of one gender feels like they are another gender. For example, when a boy thinks and feels like he is a girl inside.

This seems fine to me. You can see the rest of the definitions here: https://www.healthiersf.org/LGBTQ/InTheClassroom/vocabulary.html

As for the lesson plans, I found they have one on that Jazz Jennings book for kids, but they also have one on a boy who wears a dress (and is not labeled a girl for it) that is pretty anti gender roles. They also have books featuring kids w/ same sex parents which is also somewhat common here so I do think it's good for kids to know that is okay too. Jazz Jennings lesson plan - http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:cadowxmUYh8J:www.healthiersf.org/LGBTQ/InTheClassroom/docs/curriculum/I%2520am%2520Jazz.pdf+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us Jacob's New Dress lesson plan - http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:L19-MI_wWvAJ:www.healthiersf.org/LGBTQ/InTheClassroom/docs/curriculum/Jacob%27s%2520New%2520Dress.pdf+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us Asha's Mums lesson plan - http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:vMfwBh3phJIJ:www.healthiersf.org/LGBTQ/InTheClassroom/docs/curriculum/Asha%27s%2520Mums.pdf+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us.

I'm not as hardcore as some GC people so even this may be too much for them, but for me it was nice to see they aren't going to ridiculous extremes to trans kids or erase lesbians or anything like that.

On the down side, they do have policies that basically say gender trumps biological sex for gendered spaces at the schools: https://www.healthiersf.org/LGBTQ/GetTheFacts/pol-transgender.html This FAQ ( https://www.healthiersf.org/LGBTQ/docs/AB1266%20FAQ.pdf )seems to imply some sort of screening process (it claims kids can't just capriciously change their "gender identity") but it's very vague on what that actually entails. I'll have to do some digging to see if there have been issues over this policy so far especially because negative news of that nature is likely to go unreported.

[–]emissch[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And personally I do think that kids should at least learn what transgender people are because they are likely to encounter them (around here at least) so it's good for them to have a fairly neutral basic understanding.

definitely agree.

I was looking this up recently and I actually felt a bit better after I read what San Francisco schools are teaching kids. It's not as extreme as I thought.

that's good to hear!

they do have policies that basically say gender trumps biological sex for gendered spaces at the schools

yeah this is no bueno. teaching girls that they are not allowed to have boundaries with their spaces is bad news