So this may have been the last post ever made to gender critical. I posted this and the subreddit was deleted a few minutes later. But my question is, is there anywhere where it is illegal to be trans? Because I know there are plenty of places where it is illegal to be gay

submitted by 100_percent_truth from (self.GenderCritical)

See the title. I saw where this trans woman in Morocco was outing gay men there because it was illegal to be gay and this resulted in suicides. This made me think, trans people really have it made don't they? It is legal to be trans more than it is legal to be gay. So I would like actual data on that if anyone has any handy. Thank you so much.

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[–]Laila 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Iran actually uses being trans as a conversion therapy to "cure" gays. While being gay/lesbian there is illegal

[–]CaliforniGinger 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Oh, so true! I don't know of any country where it's illegal...

[–]LilianH 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

At a stretch there are 9 countries where transgender could be considered illegal.

  • Brunei
  • Kuwait
  • Malawi (archaic law about no long hair on men)
  • Malaysia
  • Oman
  • Saudi Arabia (no official law)
  • South Sudan
  • Tonga (cross-dressing while soliciting for sex)
  • Nigeria (northern states only)

[–]lefterfield 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good question, not sure. I've not heard of a country where it's specifically illegal to be trans.

[–]RookRegent 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

it is illegal to be trans, at least explicitely codified into law, in at least nine countries. Countries that prohibit gay and lesbian relationships Also criminalize being trans by default, or use forced transition to make the relationship "straight" which is NOT pro-trans at all. It's anti-gay. If it were pro trans, they would allow people to transition if they chose to.

http://internap.hrw.org/features/features/lgbt_laws/#:~:text=Among%20countries%20that%20expressly%20forbid,based%20on%20their%20gender%20expression.

the red dots on the map are areas that prohibit lgb relationships. the blue are where it is explicitely codified that alternate gender expression of any kind is illegal. In the area where the Red dots exist, I have seen just as many headlines about the murder of trans people as the murder of gay and lesbian people, especially gay men and trans women, though you dont believe trans women are women.

I will also include a massive research document that has more information on LGBTQ+ Rights Issues, all sourced and from reliable places such as The American Psychological Association, The American Medical Association, The American Psychoanalytic Association, Human Rights Campaign, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American College of Osteopathic Pediatricians, the United Nations, and the United Kingdom’s National Health Service.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ido70LgXsEhxcnyXE7RVS0wYJZc6aeVTpujCUPQgTrE/

pertinent information begins on page seven. it is a research document on many subjects.

I come here with no intent to harm you. i am not male. i have never had a penis. I know you will call me a woman, and i am resigned to that. I hope you will take a look at the sources at least. I can provide more if necessary. It doesnt take me long to find pertinent information to your questions.

[–]100_percent_truth[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks! I'm so confused as to the last half of your post. You are not a male and think I'll call you a woman and that upsets you? I actually had no intention of referring to you as male or female at all since I don't know you? Are you walking around looking to be offended?

[–]zephyranthes 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That second link is trash. "Transgender people are valid" is a misogynist dogwistle.

[–]theysaidthat 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you for the resources.

[–]Motherofguineapigs 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I learned from watching a Blaire White video that in most countries, transgender bs is more accepted than being gay. Where in the west, being gay is more accepted than being trans (Not that trans isn't "accepted", but it's more based on fear than being genuinely accepting of them)

[–]100_percent_truth[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And by trans woman of course I mean TIM just to be clear.