Welcome to the new Gender Critical!

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[–]aryngeous 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I am still on the outside looking in to Gender Critical. My views are essentially that trans women are women, but that there should be more room to discuss that cis women also have their own unique needs and language as well. I think that is not too far off JK Rowling's position, based on what she has written. What draws me here is there is support for women that you don't get in liberal feminism. I agree with GC on a few things, like women in sports and having certain spaces being cis women only. I'm mostly here to support women. I hope I won't be banned here.

[–]yishengqingwa666 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

No woman is "cis". That is a bul$*** trans cult word that means nothing. Trans women are men.

[–]Winter_ 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not saying that you're necessarily wrong, but is it really necessary to police language to this extent? I get why "cis" is offensive. I think it's a word that's primarily used as a tool to silence women. However, those of us coming from libfem backgrounds have been pretty well conditioned to use that kind of language. Deprogramming that is a process, and being yelled at about it in a place that is supposed to be supportive isn't particularly helpful.

[–]_another_voice 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

SO GLAD TO SEE YOU BACK. <3

[–]bekkilyn 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well everyone has to start somewhere. Hopefully by continuing to look in, you will come to know that just because a biological male takes hormones or has a few surgeries, he is always and ever will be, a biological male. His genetics and many internal and external structures will never change no matter how much he wants it to happen. He will never truly know or understand what it is like to be a biological female and live in an actual female body, he will never know or understand the cultural socialization that biological females experience every moment of every day since birth. His view of what a woman is entirely based on stereotypes of what men believe women are like.

That's why transwomen are not women. They are transwomen, but they are and ever will be males. And there is no such thing as a cis person. Cis is a term that is being used to erase women as if actual women are only a small, insignificant category among 97,000 other "gender identities" that we can somehow all just wake up and "decide" to put on that day.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The trans movement has reduced women to stereotypes and our genitals, every part of our body is female, or DNA and chromosomes are female and they are in every part of our body too, that's something that men can't replicate and change within themselves.

[–]radfemanon[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The mod team have no intention of banning people for wrongthink.

We just had that happen to all of us.

We have had some... Characters... Let's just say in the interim time who are very slur happy and they are our first ban.

We want to avoid censoring people's ideas and thoughts.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you haven't yet, I recommend reading the experiences of spouses, partners, and family members who have supported and "lived through" the transition of someone close to them, and the sheer financial, physical, and psychological havoc it's wreaked. Also the myriad stories of detransitioners who found themselves completely alienated from both their original social networks and their trans networks.

Ethical arguments are compelling, and many of us like to think of ourselves as idealistically inclusive. But direct experience is very telling. There are many such "experiencers" here. TRAs would have us silenced, because our lived experience doesn't fit the narrative.