Welcome to the new Gender Critical!

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[–]radfemanon[S] 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

So far I have only removed comments with slurs in. I don't intend to alienate the site at large, which is why when we are able to we want to get the debate subs up and running.

Currently that's my only specific request in terms of conduct here - to avoid slurs, 65000 female users over on Reddit have now been made homeless and will likely trickle into this sub over the coming week.

I would only consider banning anyone from this space who are using slurs currently.

People are welcome to engage you in debate if they want to, it's just that they may not want to given the current circumstances.

[–]fuckCNN123 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I'm not recommending this necessarily but the most popular sub here is actually hidden from the frontpage unless you're subscribed. We're toxic and incapable of meaningful debate, so by excluding outsiders from the frontpage no one really comes around to hold us to it. Maybe that would be a good delineation between GC and whatever debate sub(s) you create - one serving as a more personal space and another involving the site's community at large. Maybe that's a terrible idea too, I'm just throwing out there.

All the same welcome to saidit and I hope you all stick around, it's great to see more intellectual diversity here.

[–]radfemanon[S] 18 insightful - 3 fun18 insightful - 2 fun19 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Thank you, I think separating GC and a GC debate sub is the best way forward. It means that those that want to debate have a space to do so but we will also have a space to discuss amongst ourselves. I would heartily encourage GC users here to engage with civil discourse until we can get the full range of subs set up.

I have specified some conduct around the use of slurs and I don't intend to start banning anyone, although I will remove comments with slurs in them.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

like they were saying above, there is the option with SaidIt's policies to use moderator rule 4b if you want to be pickier about what perspectives or people are allowed a sub:

4a) Mods cannot remove user comments that are both in good faith and on-topic.

4b) Mods CAN remove opposing opinions that are high on the pyramid of debate, and ban those users on that sub, if and only if the 2 following conditions are met: 1: The fact the sub removes opposing opinions is announced in the sub's sidebar. 2: The mods uncheck the sub setting "allow this sub to appear on /all"

It's an option.

[–]radfemanon[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for that. It's something we will definitely consider.

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

I look forward to the debate subs - I'm not about to interject myself in things just to be an ass. I have more decorum than that.

[–]radfemanon[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Awesome, that's good to know.

When we get them up and running we will add them to our sidebar as sister subs.

[–]deepfriednuggets 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Just asking, would y'all be open to running another GC sub that isn't just for women only? As a guy I want to discuss all these issues too, but I feel like I'm intruding esp. after seeing comments on GC Reddit previously pretty much telling dudes to screw off from GC and find their own space.

[–]radfemanon[S] 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes! We are limited in the subs we can replace at this time - we have all been made homeless so we are going to have to muddle through together for now.

If you are able to, you can make the sub yourself, if not it will be a sub I will get to once I am able to.

I am not going to ban anyone unless they are consistently using slurs or doxxing. We are settling in to the new site and will keep an eye on it.

[–]yishengqingwa666 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

No. Bye.

[–]BettysBitterButter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hey, hi!

[–]homeless-g_c-mod 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When communities are mixed sex, they become male dominated communities. Look what happened to TwoXChromosomes when it went default. For the moment, r/gendercriticalguys still exists. If you are concerned about that space going away, I would recommend starting a mirror for that sub.

[–]homeless-g_c-mod 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Why don't you run it yourself? Why is it the job of GC women to run a sub for GC men?

[–]deepfriednuggets 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Please don't put words into my mouth. I'm not saying that it's their job to do it for men or whatever you think I'm saying. Since the mods said they were looking to create sister subs, is it not reasonable to ask if they would consider making a general one for everybody. Evidently there's a lot of toxicity against men here, from the comments that I've already received from a simple question like mine.

[–]homeless-g_c-mod 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We're struggling to rebuild a rare women-focused environment. Most of the women centered subreddits that don't welcome men were wiped out in the ban wave. GCG is STILL UP. Regardless of whether you said the words explicitly or not, I think it's valuable to consider why you would ask the women of GC to recreate GCG on this site. Being a male feminist ally means recognizing the burden of women's labor and working to share the load.

[–]yishengqingwa666 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Uh huh.

[–]Diddykingsmackin 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

So you were censored and banned for unacceptable content, but you continue to censor and ban unacceptable content.... Why not leave the content up and simply downvote it?

[–]radfemanon[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So far I remove posts with slurs in. That's not censorship. It's very plain in the sidebar as rule 1. If people want to talk and give their ideas and opinions without the use of slurs they are welcome to. If those ideas amount to "women deserve it! Haha" that's not a clever nor unique idea and will get ignored.

I recommend any GC user at least temporarily get used to ignoring comments they don't like, unless they are harassing, using slurs or doxxing, in which case please report them and the mod team will deal with them.

[–]StupidHappyPancakes 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Is there even a downvote function here?