QT: The most damning contradiction of trans ideology

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[–]rubberdubberd00 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm listening. I've been here for days listening. I've yet to hear an argument for why it's sexist to recognise that society classifies people according to sexist stereotypes. That recognition is necessary to my feminism and to fighting back against those stereotypes and it would be doing a disservice to women to give it up because some people on the internet feel, in some way that they can't describe, that it's bad.

[–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

We all recognise it, and have spent days telling you that saying that using that exact system of sexist norms to define women, by saying “anyone who says they’re a woman is a woman” is a sexist thing to do.

What you seem to be missing somehow is that society doing it doesn’t mean it’s good or that we should do it more.

Yet you’ve done exactly that repeatedly by the definitions of woman you’ve provided.
We have spent days saying it is sexism to redefine woman, a biologically distinct group, as an identity anyone can have.

We have spent days practically drawing diagrams of how it is sexist to say “a woman is anyone who identifies as a woman” and how this very statement infers that woman is not an adult human female but is instead a feeling, because words do not simply grow in meaning the way you have pointlessly insisted they do.

You’ve won’t adopt a different point of view for a moment because of what some people online feel but you’ve spent days arguing with us that an adult human male can be a woman because of his feeling bad about the word man.

Like..come on dude.

[–]rubberdubberd00 0 insightful - 1 fun0 insightful - 0 fun1 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We all recognise it

So I guess you're all also sexist then, by your logic.

What you seem to be missing somehow is that society doing it doesn’t mean it’s good or that we should do it more.

What? When did I ever say that it was good? I think that the way that society defines gender is bad.

We have spent days saying it is sexism to redefine woman, a biologically distinct group, as an identity anyone can have.

And that is something that I've never done. I do not have the power to define, or redefine words.

I don't assume that when you say a woman is an "adult human female" that you are redefining the word according to what suits you. I understand that you are describing a way you believe the word is used. Why, when I describe a different definition, do you make this assumption?

We have spent days practically drawing diagrams of how it is sexist to say “a woman is anyone who identifies as a woman” and how this very statement infers that woman is not an adult human female but is instead a feeling, because words do not simply grow in meaning the way you have pointlessly insisted they do.

Wait... So am I understand that the problem is that you think that I think that adult human females do or should fit the definition that I've laid out for the word "woman"?

[–]MarkTwainiac 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I do not have the power to define, or redefine words.

Yet you've spent the whole thread redefining the word woman in a very idiosyncratic way solely to suit yourself and to conform with the incredibly misogynistic views you espouse. You even acknowledge this outright in the last line of this particular post when you refer to:

the definition that I've laid out for the word "woman"

On this thread, I have linked to the most authoritative dictionaries of the English language which show that the time-honored, long-established meaning of the word woman is an adult human female. But throughout you have refused to accept that dictionaries written by learned lexicographers from Samuel Johnson to the current-day crew at the OED have any weight whatsoever. Instead you pretend that everyone just makes up their own definition of words, and therefore it's completely reasonable for you to

describe a different definition

for the word woman and to expect it to be taken just as seriously as the actual definition of woman documented in the world's most esteemed and trustworthy dictionaries. Which means you do in fact grant to yourself

the power to define, or redefine words.