Calls for trans elimination

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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I want to eliminate misogyny and homophobia and I think without either of those things, virtually no one will believe they are the opposite sex.

Well you're wrong. Being trans isn't inherently tied to those things. We could and should eliminate those things and there would still be trans people.

"the goal should be fewer cosmetic surgeries/synthetic hormones for people who believe they are the opposite sex"

This literally is trans elimination though. You don't actually care about what trans people want or need for our own care, you simply believe that you always know better and that the answer can never be transition. Transition has changed my life, for the better, and I'm not the only one. So what will you do about me, about us, others who will come after us? Because I'm not going to stop transitioning for you or anyone.

In my perfect world, people would recognize the bodily auto

[–]beris😎[M] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Oh and the Nazi comparison is highly apt

It's not, and it won't be until someone comes along and commits literal genocide, so with any luck, it will NEVER be, hence the rule. Talking about the sins of the nazis and how they affected you is very different from claiming that is equivalent to any form of hate any community recieves today. My mother is quietly homophobic, it's not a good thing, but she's not a Nazi, nor would any comparison be "apt" in any way.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Great to know that I can't call eliminationist people Nazis until they actively start killing trans people, I'm sure it'll be very useful when the time comes x(

[–]beris😎[M] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Not to burst your bubble, but even if it were to come to that, you not being able to say that kind of thing in a debate sub with 10~ other active people will likely have 0 impact ever. The rules exist to facilitate debate. I'm not policing your language, im policing your language HERE.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Is it still the case that there are zero QT mods? Lol. (Peaking isn't QT iirc, last I checked they were very transmed)

I came back here because I've been really worried about where things are headed, but if it's really important, sorry I'm sure I can find more descriptive words that won't be against that rule.

Even though, I've gotten more and more convinced that this discourse has moved past the point of any debate, idk.

[–]beris😎 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There are no qt mods. Technically there is one but theyve been MIA forever. Im neither GC nor QT. I'd say I even probably am slightly more lenient to qt posters, just because it's literally you vs the world, but I can't really excuse word-for-word rule breaking.

You're welcome to reply a comment of mine or send me a message when you've edited your earlier post.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I edited the original comment, let me know if I should edit more, sorry

Also yeah, that's what I thought, that's how it's been for a while. I still mod the server for the subreddit but I don't go on there anymore lately because it's become very toxic. I don't think most ppl r very interested in talking to the other side anymore x(