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This is something we butch lesbians discuss. It's really hard to relate to the majority of women... straight(+bisexual) women... because they're more gender conforming than we are and do shit specifically for male attention/affection/love/etc. So to us, "woman" (womanhood) is very connected to heterosexuality and femininity. And it tends to be other women saying we (butches, gnc women) are not women, even though we are obviously female human beings just like them, because our womanhood is connected to homosexuality and masculinity. Basically, homophobic women (including feminists) define womanhood and (socially) exclude us.

Example: me and at least 2 other lesbians were temporarily banned from a women's subreddit for how we answered questions asked by men. The mods are straight and accused us of misandry which just meant "you lesbians aren't nice enough to men... go away." We also got downvoted a lot. Just felt like the straight women didn't want us there.

I compare this to race... if you are constantly shunned for not having skin light enough to be seen as white (European), what are you going to believe? You must not be white like them. Constantly being shunned by women can make one believe I must not be a woman like them.