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[–]FlippyKingSadly this sub welcomes rape apologists and victim blaming. Bye! 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Breasts are sex organs and breast development is part of the normal maturity in women, the adult human female of our species, and thus they are unique to one of the two and only two sexes of our species. The kidneys on the other hand is an organ common to all humans and thus it is not a sex organ at all. Neither factory made formula nor a dialysis machine make their function non-essential.

It is more like the following dramatization:

"whoa, I'm an infant and I ain't got no breast milk anywhere to be found."

"Whoa, what a coincidence infant! I'm an adult and I ain't got not functioning kindeys anywhere to be found."

"OK adult, what are those things over there" I'm a talking infant but I still can't see very far."

"Good eye, infant, in spite of not being able to see very far! Those are a big pile of infant formula cans on top of a dialysis machine!"

"We're saved! Both of us! Yeah"

"Yes! We are! The essential services we both need have been sufficiently imitated by technology."

"OK, where's the can opener and the electrical outlet for your machine?"

"Oh no, we're doomed!"

[–]circlingmyownvoid2[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Trans women can grow breasts identical to natal women with timely hormonal intervention so in fact they aren’t.

[–]FlippyKingSadly this sub welcomes rape apologists and victim blaming. Bye! 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Can they? How do they do that? And they are identical? Ohh, wait you said "with timely hormonal intervention". So, are the transwomen growing the breasts or is the "timely hormonal intervetion" doing it and the place the transwoman simply the place where that intervention occurs? The team of medical professionals and and the factory making the hormones that do the intervening seem to be the ones growing the "breasts".

[–]MarkTwainiac 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

From what I've read, the breasts that males who've been through the male puberty of adolescence grow later in life when taking estradiol do not develop the lobules, ducts and milk glands that in female people mature and develop during female puberty. In male puberty, the breast tissue does not get the same signals as breast tissue gets in female puberty, and my understanding is that male sex hormones in males during puberty causes permanent atrophy of the structures in the breasts related to lactation.

It's not clear what happens to males whose development has been blocked with GnRH agonists aka "puberty blockers" at an early Tanner stage like Jazz Jennings.