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    [–]circlingmyownvoid2 3 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 6 fun -  (26 children)

    I’m bisexual, so I’ve been told many times that bisexuality doesn’t exist (or doesn’t exist in men) and that I am actually either gay or straight—it’s never caused an identity crisis in me, but it is somewhat common for bisexual people to have identity crises over these sorts of messages. But the difference is that regardless of anyone’s personal opinions on bisexuality, or self-identification, there is objective criteria for bisexuality and ways to objectively measure bisexuality.

    You telling me I’m wrong about my identity doesn’t put me in a crisis. I know who I am whether you like it or not. Yes it’s insulting and it hurts to be called something you consider so vile but there’s no crisis. What it does represent though is the attitude that would deny us the ability to live a tolerable life. That’s the attitude that would deny us access to transition, to ensure that society treats us like monsters, and to ensure that we can never really be at peace in the world. I know who I am but being told I’m not is both an insult and a threat.

    [–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

    I’d love to know what powers you think we have to prevent anything, when children are receiving medical interference with puberty, penises are allowed to be exposed to little girls in changing rooms, and schools are teaching gender ideology, while we get death threats and rape threats for saying we don’t like that.

    It doesnt matter how often you’re told that we are not the old men in power who think you’re just super gay who kept you out to start and we aren’t the old men in power making the puberty interruptions and the unisex change rooms now that it keeps them in power, does it?

    [–]circlingmyownvoid2 1 insightful - 8 fun1 insightful - 7 fun2 insightful - 8 fun -  (24 children)

    You are the ones actively campaigning to prevent us from receiving the near universally agreed medical care we need, or the ability to access necessary services, or to minimize discrimination against us. You are arguing for us to be third class citizens, no matter how you try to church it up.

    [–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

    Yep, you still choose to ignore it and pretend we’re hurting you from across the ocean.

    [–]circlingmyownvoid2 1 insightful - 7 fun1 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 7 fun -  (22 children)

    Whether you put the structures in place or not you are actively arguing for them yo hurt us. It’s not complicated.

    [–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

    It’s actually a pretty complex process for an Australian woman to be causing you, an American, psychic harm from across an ocean, by having wrongthink despite my voting for Aussie laws that protect transgender people from actual discrimination.

    [–]ZveroboyAlinaIs clownfish a clown or a fish? 7 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

    To be honest, Australians are scary on their own - they are living among poison spiders, crocodiles, scorpions and medusas, they are walking upside down and they have winter when we have here summer.

    [–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I can promise you that as scary as our wildlife sounds it’s mostly chill.

    You’re much more likely to get king hit by some pissed dickhead named jayk wearing a Bintang singlet and crusty thongs at the pub. Or be accosted by a meth addict who will try and bum a dart and if you say no, steal your shoes.

    At least the snakes you can avoid or yeet away if you know how to handle em.

    [–]ZveroboyAlinaIs clownfish a clown or a fish? 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    True, snakes and spiders at least respecting you, unlike men :insert_chuckling_emoji_here:.

    [–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (16 children)

    We live in a global culture and arguing for us to be dehumanized and unable to be able to actually live in society isn’t being done in a void.

    [–]HouseplantWomen who disagree with QT are a different sex[S] 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

    I’ve never argued for trans people to be dehumanised, or to be unable to live in society. Once again, you are projecting your own beliefs about yourself onto other transgender people, and misinterpreting my messages according to those beliefs.

    Until you choose to stop filtering everything through your pain, everything in the world will feel like an attack. Your perceptions aren’t objective truths.

    [–]circlingmyownvoid2 1 insightful - 6 fun1 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 6 fun -  (6 children)

    Yeah, you have. Making our access to necessary care harder or impossible. Arguing we shouldn’t have access to safe facilities. Arguing we should be restricted from things. Arguing we shouldn’t be able to protect ourselves by concealing that we are trans. That’s what you are doing.

    If we can’t conceal who we are, can’t get care, have no way to live in the world since we can’t access necessary facilities, how is that living in society?