Both: In light of recent events. In what context is Voyeurism and Indecent Exposure acceptable? Is there a rational justification for making an exception for males who claim to be women?

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[–][deleted] 17 insightful - 1 fun17 insightful - 0 fun18 insightful - 1 fun -  (30 children)

Statistically you’re less likely to be murdered by men than the women you’re lecturing about safety. Statistically, you as a transwomen are more likely to murder someone than be murdered yourself. No one here believes your victim narrative except yourself.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 1 insightful - 10 fun1 insightful - 9 fun2 insightful - 10 fun -  (29 children)

Statistically, you as a transwomen are more likely to murder someone than be murdered yourself.

This is wildly untrue and you should be ashamed.

[–][deleted] 16 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 0 fun17 insightful - 1 fun -  (28 children)

🙄

Transwomen have a male pattern of criminality and a lower murder rate than the general population. The cats out of the bag.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 1 insightful - 9 fun1 insightful - 8 fun2 insightful - 9 fun -  (27 children)

No.

[–][deleted] 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (26 children)

You know what, you’re right. I thought the data was convincing, but you’ve totally changed my mind with your imagination, wishful thinking, and declarative statements.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 8 fun2 insightful - 7 fun3 insightful - 8 fun -  (25 children)

The data isn’t convincing. You just want to pretend you have statistics to support your bigotry.

[–][deleted] 15 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 0 fun16 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

I guess I hallucinated the data 1 2. Not again! I really need to get the carbon monoxide levels checked in my house.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 7 fun2 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 7 fun -  (23 children)

It’s almost as if the media’s noted protensity to report trans women’s deaths as men’s deaths that I already talked about could play a role. Or the fact that your claim that trans women are more likely to be murders than murdered is total horse shit. Weird.

[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

The suggestion that the ‘advocates’ providing the Human Rights Campaign with the data on trans murder rates somehow didn’t take factors like that into account is a bizarre one. But being charitable: someone who is better with numbers than I am should work out exactly how many more trans people would have had to been murdered to reach even the murder rate of the general population, considering the data that we have currently (again: from the Human Rights Campaign) indicates that ‘trans-identifying individuals were actually murdered at less than half the rate of the general population’.

What is the rate of trans murderers vs trans murdered? If the suggestion is total horse shit, surely you have data and are not just sharing things from your imagination again.

[–]circlingmyownvoid2 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (21 children)

How many trans murders have been reported. My bet is less than 1 percent of murderers