QT/trans: What would be the worst things to happen if the concept of gender did not exist?

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[–]loveSloaneDebate King 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Your appearance is my point. It’s not said to attack you, it’s exactly what I’ve been saying this whole time. You claim to be critical of gender and that what I’m saying is wrong and sexist etc- but your very own transition is exactly my point. You altered your body and your life drastically to appear to be a woman in society, that doesn’t make you gnc, it just means you conformed in the extreme. You changed everything you could about yourself for gender’s sake. You just don’t see it.

You’re ideas are sexist and lack logic, but even what you think you’re saying- the fact of your transition invalidates your arguments and you make yourself the biggest flaw in your matrix theory.

At this point, I’d rather just stick to facts with you than try to dissect your ideas only to have them turn out to reinforce the very things you think you’re fighting against.

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 2 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 6 fun -  (2 children)

My appearance is not a statement to me being a woman its just a way that I feel comfortable looking. I don’t want anyone assuming my gender based off of my appearance because then that means that someone else is probably having that same standard used against them to their detriment. I am a gender abolitionist and the only reason that I put an “F” on my drivers license was so that I could better maneuver in this cis supremacist society of yours. I have zero interest in reifying gender norms so don’t accuse me of such.

[–]ZveroboyAlinaIs clownfish a clown or a fish? 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I have zero interest in reifying gender norms

Then why you do and do it to a such extreme? And what about other trans people, organizations and political parties, who are promoting those norms?

"Cis supremacist society" is trying to get away from gender norms and stereotypes since 80s, slowly but surely were going to more and more accepting gender nonconformity, until transgender movement appeared and started claiming that gender nonconforming people are in reality just of the opposite sex or non-binary, that boxes of genders are very rigid, so you need to fit them, and if you don't - you are the opposite sex or non-binary.

[–]HeimdeklediROAR 1 insightful - 7 fun1 insightful - 6 fun2 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Noe of this is true. Trans people aren't turning gnc people trans, and were not insisting on strict gender roles for trans people to follow either.