All: Why do a lot of trans people insist that being non binary or trans has nothing to to with stereotyoes, and then suddenly it really is about stereotypes?

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[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don’t know. I don’t think stereotypes or gender expectations have nothing to do with it in terms of identity. It’s hard for me to imagine I would have been trans if I’d been straight or gender conforming as a boy. I don’t know if that means those things cause you to be trans, but they were there and it’s part of you. It’s hard to me to imagine my sense of self has nothing to do with that even if I feel like it was there from the beginning. Obviously, a lot of trans people weren’t gender nonconforming or gay as kids so I don’t want to speak for them.

I feel like people who equate transness with stereotypes in presentation currently is super cringy though. That’s kind of a separate though. The idea of girl mode/boy mode really don’t describe the experience I feel like. If that’s literally how you see yourself, I feel like we aren’t the same thing.

[–]adungitit 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

a lot of trans people weren’t gender nonconforming or gay as kids so I don’t want to speak for them.

Considering that "trans" has lost all meaning nowadays and can refer to regular gender conforming person who isn't even taking hormones let alone planning a surgery, that doesn't mean much.

[–]peakingatthemomentTranssexual (natal male), HSTS 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That’s a great point. Definitely don’t have any idea about those people. I try to use trans to refer to medical transition, but it’s so hard to use the word at all now and have it make sense.