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[–]emptiedriver 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

later to achieve pass you often need dangerous and very expansive surgery like FFS.

what is FFS? At this point we don't know if hormone blockers will help make "passing" better. The problem of not growing enough penile tissue to form a neo-vagina was something that came up with trying to transition young for example... But mostly we don't have data. The majority of people who have reported successfully transitioning did so after turning 18, so it doesn't seem necessary to lower the age. At very least, it seems like there should be an equal attempt to pursue other treatments when people are underage.

When transition was gatekeeped, it was about 1% of detrans cases or even less. Compare it about 45% of suicide rate attempts.

When transition was gatekeeped? Do you mean when it was not possible to get hormone therapy below the age of adulthood? When has transition been gatekeeped but allowed to teenagers?

I don't know about your statistics - you can provide links to what you're thinking of if you have them - but we have only just begun to allow these treatments to kids so the results of that are simply not yet available.

Right now we see a lot of detrans cases because of QT and their "self-claim gender" concept won.

How can someone below the age of consent be certain enough of a choice like this? Some underage people can say they don't regret taking nude photos, getting tattoos, drinking or having sex with someone older, but we still don't change the law. We make a policy of minimum age for a major life decision in order to maintain a standard and keep the more vulnerable people safe. Hormone blockers come with major risks, puberty has important growth and maturity functions, and sex alteration operations still work after a person has gone through their normal maturing process.

Let us decide what we need and what we don't need pls. Do not interfere in our life.

Doctors and hospital workers who have to deal with a patient deserve some consideration as well. It is like providing a blood type. It's just fundamentally important to assessing certain things and should be available to those who may be faced with emergency situations. It's not all about you.

Sorry, but looks like you're not

Well, what I'm "not" is a believer in trying to grant those wishes just because they're desired. People can wish for all sorts of things, but reality is a shared space. You may wish you were King of the World but that doesn't mean I'm going to pretend you are. People can work to provide you with cosmetic surgeries that make you happy if that's really the best way forward, but you can't expect everyone to ignore facts like your DNA, reproductive system, body differences, history, or anything else that they notice or have to deal with in particular situations.

Yeah. It's is exactly GC position. When I tried to explain why GC is wrong, and it is exactly massacre, I usually got a ban.

I'm not in charge of that and don't think you get easily banned around here. But you have not explained why "it is exactly massacre" at all. From what I understand the suicide rate does not go down after transition. And what makes you think GC should be blamed? Perhaps trans people just often have depressive or mental health issues that need to be treated separately and they are not being looked at because they assume everything will be solved through transitioning.

On top of which, blaming an abstract group for suicide is an unfair approach. You said yourself you want to protect free speech - if you will accuse people of being murderers for having an opinion different than your own, you are certainly curtailing the open forum. Suicide is a major action and won't be caused merely by political debates occurring in your vicinity, even if they bother you. There's more to it.

[–]pippiTheLongstocki[S] 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

When transition was gatekeeped? Do you mean when it was not possible to get hormone therapy below the age of adulthood? When has transition been gatekeeped but allowed to teenagers?

It was always gatekeeped before QT forced their idea to self-proclaimed gender and now it's easy to change gender marker in the ID, especially for adults, even not having gender dysphoria

what is FFS?

Just google it. Tl;dr: it's surgery in the bones of face. Example: https://i.pinimg.com/564x/23/71/e9/2371e9bc1a0d0b22afa2b3ad8dec683e.jpg If you gott hormonal blockers when you was a teen, you don't need FFS. If you don't, you often need it

Well, what I'm "not" is a believer in trying to grant those wishes just because they're desired.

I think, GC mostly have by unknown reason lack of empathy and can't imagine real life of transwoman and issues which she faced, and why it happened. I think, it could be reason why you so easy suggest something what can triggers millions of deaths and don't worry about it. If you agree that it's possible, how do you think we could solve this problem? How to properly tell about this experience? Especially to be understandable for GC? I want to, but I don't know how.

From what I understand the suicide rate does not go down after transition

It's not true. This is meta research: https://whatweknow.inequality.cornell.edu/topics/lgbt-equality/what-does-the-scholarly-research-say-about-the-well-being-of-transgender-people/