Both: Do "transbians" exist outside the West?

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The majority of trans women in the west are also androphiles it’s about 1/3 gay 1/3 straight 1/3 bi/pan.

Also attraction isn’t dependent on identity. You can be any sexuality and still trans.

[–]SnowAssMan[S] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I should have posted the source I was working from:

"A 2015 survey of roughly 3000 American trans women showed that at least 60% were attracted to women"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_sexuality

There are other sources that confirm what you're saying, roughly (except putting bi & pan together makes that category slightly higher than 1/3), but "transbian" in those examples may not be a majority, but still a plurality. If you consider that a significant portion of trans-womxyn who are attracted to women tend to have their sexual orientation shift into bisexuality after undergoing HRT, one might include those bisexual & pansexual numbers under gynaephiles too (since bisexuality is incredibly rare, typically, especially in the male sex).

Also attraction isn’t dependent on identity. You can be any sexuality and still trans.

People always say that, but it appears to only be true in the West. I did searches using Google & Google Scholar trying to find evidence of gynaephilia & androphilia in other cultures' equivalent of trans-womxyn & all I was able to find was evidence of exclusive androphilia time & time again.

[–]MarkTwainiac 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you consider that a significant portion of trans-womxyn who are attracted to women tend to have their sexual orientation shift into bisexuality after undergoing HRT,

Many males who identify as trans claim to have their sexual orientation shift into bisexuality after taking cross-sex hormones (which are not "HRT"), but what they claim is not necessarily true.

Also, where trans individuals do self-report a change in their sexual orientation, it has not been shown that this claimed change in orientation is either real or is a result of taking CSH and androgen blockers, getting surgeries or taking any other medical treatment to "transition." The correlation with hormone treatment seems to be entirely made up in the heads of these persons and researchers have found no evidence of it, just as is the case with the switch in sexual orientation these persons claim has occurred.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4192544/