QT: What happens when another culture's idea of gender does not align with your idea of gender?

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[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

1) It’s not up to me to try to define what other cultures see of gender or what people there say. But I expect the same. If someone considers themself kathoeu or Hijra and not a woman, that’s their experience and I don’t begrudge it. But I don’t want them telling me I am one of those things and not a woman. It’s not about telling anyone else who they are.

2) Non-binary identities aren’t only in western cultures. Look at the Hijra for instance. Regardless the answer is the same. It’s not anyone else’s place to tell someone else who they are.

[–]FlanJam[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It’s not anyone else’s place to tell someone else who they are.

Ahh ok, that's fair. There's more I could ask but I don't wanna seem like I'm grilling you lol. But I will push back on the idea of Hijra being the same as nonbinary. I'm not an expert, and they may have similarities, but I don't think its entirely accurate to call them the same thing.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It’s a type of non-binary I think. They are neither men nor women so they fall under the broad category by my reckoning. But if one of them disagrees I would defer to them on their own identities.

[–]penelopekitty 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They are recognized as men who present with feminine stereotypes. There is a place carved out for them in Indian society, although it is not a high status position. Under no circumstances are these men thought of as women or anything like the western made up concept of nonbinary.