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[–]DistantGlimmer 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

However, It is transphobic to not respect that guy and blatantly ignore his gender identity b

Why? Is it Islamophobic to ignore someone's belief in Allah if I don't share that belief? Isn't the best way to handle this in a pluralistic society to simply not discuss it rather than forcing the non-believer to bow down to the other person's beliefs in the name of "respect". I don't think I should be compelled to show a belief in anyone's gender identity as I do not believe the concept of gender identity itself is a real thing (and I think the belief is harmful to people).

Your implication here is that this is an eminently reasonable position that no one should disagree with but I don't see it that way.

[–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

All you have to do is acknowledge him as a man and refer to him by his preferred pronouns. That shouldn't be hard to do.

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    [–]GenderbenderShe/her/hers[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Nobody would really fucking care about using the right pronouns for kindness/politeness (a few amount of people really like conflit, most people just mind their own damn business)

    GC 99% of the time purposely misgender trans people.

    Trans people and people attracted by trans people needs their own spaces, end of the discussion. If LGB took the time to create their own space, it's because it was necessary.

    Gay men (cis or trans) are a part of LGB and have every right to participate in the sub. I do acknowledge some spaces are acceptable depending on the point of transition, but this is a broad gay discussion forum and trans men at any point in transition have the right to post there.

    But if that makes you feel alive (?) keep trying to force acceptance wich is A) not going to work B) going to have repercussions on LGB people and C) put real T people at risk and create for them ennemies where they had at first allies.

    By the same turn gay men can loose allies for being transphobic. I support gay men and fight against homophobia, except transphobic gay men (once again, refusing to date or sleep with anyone for any reason does not count as transphobia).

    That's a very dangerous game that scares most of us because we're going to be in the middle of this war, and we can't walk out of homosexuality/bisexuality or our sex by "stop identifying".

    No one is saying you can stop identifying. Your gender identity is your gender identity and you can’t control that.