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[–]worried19 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I sincerely hope so. But I'm not sure. California's governor apparently just signed a new law allowing self ID in prisons regardless of whether the people involved have had hormone treatment or surgeries. Natal males with intact, functioning penises are going to be allowed in general population in women's prisons. And also the converse, natal females with breasts and vaginas will be allowed into men's prisons. I guess it's only a matter of time before enough terrible things happen for the lawsuits to begin.

[–]loveSloaneDebate King 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It’s going to be a disaster. And people are already upset about it and saying this is too much. I really truly hope this is the beginning of people listening to what feminists (real ones who focus their feminism on females) are saying. I hope it opens people’s eyes and leads to them informing themselves and listening to people who’ve been speaking up this whole time. The only thing is, I hope this happens just from the law itself, and not after women get hurt (in either male or female prisons). This is such an unfair and dangerous law for females.

[–]worried19 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Agreed, and it's not like trans women don't deserve safe spaces. They absolutely do. The governor should have signed a law requiring prisons to have safe wings or protected units for them. But self ID is not the way to go.

[–]DistantGlimmer 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

These policies are so horrible (we have the same in Canada and it has led to awful abuses of women prisoners that the media never talks about). Self-ID in prisons makes me sick to my stomach. Hopefully, other jurisdictions will start following the UK's more sensible lead on this.