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    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    Look at the population/sample size, 1200 people, that is some bullshit. Look at the countries where the data came from. They might be right but these are shit stats for a "pandemic".

    I encourage someone to look into the doseages of these studies too.*

    [–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Look at the population/sample size, 1200 people, that is some bullshit.

    You think that the number 1200 is bullshit?

    Care to elaborate in your problem with this number?

    Look at the countries where the data came from.

    A lot in the subcontinent. Are you suggesting that Ivermectin might work outside the subcontinent?

    They might be right but these are shit stats for a "pandemic".

    In what way are they shit?

    I encourage someone to look into the doseages of these studies too.*

    Ranging from 12 mg to 210 mg. There should be a dose-response curve if it's doing anything.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I'm just saying that a study of 1200 people is a very small size. Your study cited a similar study of a 600 person or so sample size that drew an opposite conclusion, that Ivermectin was effective. It's just not compelling in my book. If Ivermictin is in wide use, larger and better studies could be conducted.

    These shit stats also "showed" that Ivermictin did not have negative consequences.

    [–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I'm just saying that a study of 1200 people is a very small size.

    That should be able to detect a difference between the treatment and control groups of the order of 1%. The claim for ivermectin is that it's a lot more effective than 1%.

    Your study cited a similar study of a 600 person or so sample size that drew an opposite conclusion, that Ivermectin was effective.

    175 of those people were participants in a trial that didn't have a "high" risk of bias.

    This study has better quality.

    It's just not compelling in my book.

    It's indicative that the effect is non-existent or very weak.

    If Ivermictin is in wide use, larger and better studies could be conducted.

    You could do a larger study without it being in wide use. The studies done to date don't imply effectiveness, so the use that its getting (and that of hydroxychloroquine before it) are not justified.

    These shit stats also "showed" that Ivermictin did not have negative consequences.

    At those numbers. It's a well used drug. (Mostly for deworming horses).

    But there are side effects.

    Commonly:

    painful joints or muscles.
    unusual tiredness or weakness.
    skin rash or itch.
    headache.
    nausea, vomiting, stomach discomfort.
    dizziness.
    swelling of the face or the legs.
    worsening asthma.

    And more rarely here are serious neurological adverse effects

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It's indicative that the effect is non-existent or very weak.

    Agreed. I look forward to better data in the future. Given the bold claims of the post title, thanks for a good counter argument.