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High school friends who had come out to her as gay didn’t believe her when she told them that she was bisexual, citing her past relationships with men.

This is what pissed me off the most. Because it only happens to bisexuals. When gay people come out, regardless of if the reaction good or bad, people don't fucking do this shit. They don't say 'but you've never dated anyone until now!! That means you're asexual!!'

The term 'double closet' is very apt. I find it difficult to navigate both het spaces and gay spaces. It's like. So many people, LGs and straight, are squicked out by the idea of dating a bisexual. Okay fine. Both sides say we aren't allowed to complain because we can 'pass' as straight if we want to, so that causes many of us to internalize our struggles. We get told, mostly from LGs within the 'community' that biphobia isn't real. Then on top of it there are so many bisexuals making the rest of us look bad because they project the bi experience onto others: 'sexuality is fluid/I'd date a trans person/I'm so GAY/etc'.

It's exhausting.

I also really felt that bit about bisexuals usually being portrayed as deviants in fiction. One could make the argument that all SSA people get portrayed as deviants in fiction, and that's true. But again, there are real life LGs who think this, in addition to all the straight people who think this. We get the bullshit twofold.

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High school friends who had come out to her as gay didn’t believe her when she told them that she was bisexual, citing her past relationships with men.

This is what pissed me off the most. Because it only happens to bisexuals. When gay people come out, regardless of if the reaction good or bad, people don't fucking do this shit. They don't say 'but you've never dated anyone until now!! That means you're asexual!!'

Yeah. I mean, she's not a lesbian. And that kind of Gold Star Lesbian test shouldn't even be used on lesbians because of the common closet behavior of identifying as Straight/Bisexual for a fashion.

The term 'double closet' is very apt. I find it difficult to navigate both het spaces and gay spaces. It's like. So many people, LGs and straight, are squicked out by the idea of dating a bisexual. Okay fine. Both sides say we aren't allowed to complain because we can 'pass' as straight if we want to, so that causes many of us to internalize our struggles. We get told, mostly from LGs within the 'community' that biphobia isn't real. Then on top of it there are so many bisexuals making the rest of us look bad because they project the bi experience onto others: 'sexuality is fluid/I'd date a trans person/I'm so GAY/etc'.

It's exhausting.

I think there's just one closet for us. The Bisexual Closet. And until a bi is recognized as bi and only bi(for better or worse), one is going to be experiencing stress and perhaps depression from being in that closet. And like I noted before, the personal experience projection is a limitation of perspective that all orientations can be guilty of.

Does anyone else think that we could really use the Q of Questioning back to temporarily house people who are genuinely not sure of their sexuality yet or confident in declaring it, to mitigate(spicy straights will still spicy straight of course) this orientation appropriation problem? I was pretty supportive of the Q way back when until it morphed into "Queer", which is as useless of a label as I can imagine, and may have indirectly set bisexual recognition back years by eliminating this temporary 'parking space' alongside the LGB that is sorely needed.

I also really felt that bit about bisexuals usually being portrayed as deviants in fiction. One could make the argument that all SSA people get portrayed as deviants in fiction, and that's true. But again, there are real life LGs who think this, in addition to all the straight people who think this. We get the bullshit twofold.

Yes, I heard from someone how common that is in literature and elsewhere. I think there can be some homosexuals who have a distaste for proximal opposite-sex attraction a little like how some heterosexuals have a distaste for same-sex attraction.