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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Very interesting stuff that makes me doubt my faith in the founding fathers. Is it fair to pin the civil war on them though? I guess you are establishing a patterns of nasty business that has been there from the start. And calling the founding fathers statists who took their people backwards, who did the wrong thing or who were misguided.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Pin most problems on all elites all through time. The true parasite class.

Sure the Founding Fathers may have wanted their freedom from Britain. Or maybe it was all just political theatre orchestrated by the Freemasons, Banksters, Elites, etc.

Maybe Trump and Hillary are good friends. Maybe they are bitter enemies. Maybe they're just rivals of the same class. Fighting it out at the expense of millions and millions of collateral lives, if not billions.

I never said, "the founding fathers statists who took their people backwards, who did the wrong thing or who were misguided."

Maybe they were or weren't. But they were the elites, and by default they are Machiavellian or they won't last.